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Offline MasterOfCoin

The Question of the Century - Did God Create Himself?
« on: December 24, 2017, 06:03:57 AM »

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The first reaction of many people to questions like this is to first of all prove that there might be something wrong with the mental processes of original poster. But that is not the right way to tackle this question.
The Christian's including me know and believe that there is surely a super mastermind behind the creation. Apart from some die hard atheists, it's pretty obvious that God exists. I mean look at the complexity of everything in the universe - the wonder, the beauty.
 But what's more?
What's the question that is not being asked?

Did God Create Himself?

I read an interesting article on Wikiplora http://www.wikiplora.com/2017/06/did-god-create-himself.html

I would love for others to share their thoughts on this issue.


- MasterOfCoin
http://www.wikiplora.com/2017/06/did-god-create-himself.html



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Offline davetaff

Re: The Question of the Century - Did God Create Himself?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2017, 10:34:31 AM »
Hi Masterofcoin and welcome
What ever we say on this subject can only be speculation I would say it would be impossible for God to create himself it would mean nothing created something and that illogical.

So that leaves me with my belief that God has always existed I offer the following verses to support this.

. 3 verses found.

Psa 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. View more

Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children; View more

Psa 106:48 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD     


Love and peace
Dave

Offline Mountain Goat

Re: The Question of the Century - Did God Create Himself?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2017, 02:11:20 PM »
I kinda have to say it is a bit of a strange question which is a bit like the type of logic of a hungry man eating himself and ending up with nothing left. Actually that is a bit more believeable as there was something existing to start with.
It is along the lines of an evolutionary concept... With evolution which was said to have started with a bang when a few molecules of nothing collided (As there was nothing there to begins with), this concept starts with nothing and out of nothing there became God.

We need to go back to what God has said. He said he always was and always has been. In other words, everything we see and know has started out from what God Himself has made. We either except that or we delve into other theories and move away from what God has said.
Dont get me wrong. I'm the first to want to look at different theories (Just look at some of the concepts I've brought up regarding the earth and other things), but I also know that Gods Word is true, so any theory out there can't conflict with His Word. If it does then either the theory is wrong or God is a liar, which we know God does not tell lies, so we have to say the theory is flawed.

I'm glad you are questioning as without questioning how will you find out? It is a process we all need to do much more of in life. When we stop questioning we become vulnerable to brainwashing which sadly is where much of society is these days...
This generation onwards probably has had the most attacks in brainwashing and subduing free thought and speech then any other generation and this is the most dangerous situation in this world we have ever faced through history as it steals our hearts away from Jesus. It stops "Mr and Mrs Average" from thinking about God.
It is also found in some churches where leaders have qualifications in brainwashing techniques where the individuals are not even aware that it is brainwashing techniques that they have learned. The techniques are often disguised in fancy words like "Degree in Public Speaking". Proudly such techniques are used and the one preaching thinks that he is one of the few who can preach due to knowing such " Special" techniques. The truth is that God can use anybody that He wants at any one time and if we limit any church service to a small group of leaders, we do not have a church, as the body of Jesus Christ (The true church) is interactive in character.

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: The Question of the Century - Did God Create Himself?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2017, 09:55:20 PM »


The question is "how can someone who is not yet created - create Himself ?"


Offline John

Re: The Question of the Century - Did God Create Himself?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 07:09:11 PM »
Welcome masterofcoin,
                                      first point, use wiki as a starting place for research but don't use it as an authority as anyone can edit articles regardless of how competent they are in that subject.

2nd, as Dave has already said the bible teaches that God is eternal. If that is true then he was not created and has no need of a creator. If he was the question then arises who created the creator of God and so on into eternity.

3rd, creation from nothing. the logic is:-
All things that have a begining have a cause.
The universe has a cause.
therefore the universehas a creator.

God being eternal and existing outside of our universe is not bound by what we regard as the laws of science.

If you believe God created himself, you would have to argue that point and supply evidence.

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