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Offline wincam

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Co-Redemptrix =
« on: December 10, 2017, 03:34:18 PM »
 more so like allowing/permitting/cooperating tha assisting or contributing = be it done unto me according to thy word = we are required to do likewise imho - twinc


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Re: Co-Redemptrix =
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2017, 04:32:44 PM »
more so like allowing/permitting/cooperating tha assisting or contributing = be it done unto me according to thy word = we are required to do likewise imho - twinc

Your title, co redemptrix, who where when, please explain.

There is only one redeemer, Jesus Christ alone.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline francis drake

Re: Co-Redemptrix =
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2017, 10:28:33 PM »
@wincam

' ... ... For with the Lord nothing shall be Impossible.' (Luke 1:37)
'And Mary said,
"Behold the handmaid of the Lord;
be it unto me according to Thy Word.'

(Luke 1:38)

Mary heard God's Word;
Mary believed God's Word;
Mary openly professed her faith in God's Word;
Mary received what God had promised in His Word.

Praise God!

(Romans 10:9)

In Christ Jesus
Cariad
But that doesn't make her a Co-Redemptrix as implied in the title.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Co-Redemptrix =
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 06:33:41 AM »
But that doesn't make her a Co-Redemptrix as implied in the title.


why not - even Jesus numerous times said "thy faith has made thee whole" and even He could not work His miracles without cooperation - wincam
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 09:03:19 AM »

why not - even Jesus numerous times said "thy faith has made thee whole" and even He could not work His miracles without cooperation - wincam


Mary didn't shed her blood for anyone, she needed to be redeemed from her sinfulness just like you and I do.

It was Jesus's blood alone that redeemed us, and that is all that counts.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Co-Redemptrix =
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 12:01:17 PM »

Mary didn't shed her blood for anyone, she needed to be redeemed from her sinfulness just like you and I do.

It was Jesus's blood alone that redeemed us, and that is all that counts.


it was human blood and human DNA, not monkey or snake blood or DNA - wincam
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 01:43:03 PM »
"even Jesus numerous times said "thy faith has made thee whole" and even He could not work His miracles without cooperation - wincam"

That is like someone saved from the sea by a rescue helicopter, saying' I saved myself by taking the lift offered by a rescue helicopter!

They were rescued entirely by the helicopter and in the same way Christians are saved by Jesus's death and resurrection.

Offline francis drake

Re: Co-Redemptrix =
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 01:56:52 PM »

it was human blood and human DNA, not monkey or snake blood or DNA - wincam

That human blood was not from Mary though was it, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
But making silly comments about snakes and monkeys doesn't help people understand your points wincam.

You may be annoyed or offended winam, but the best way to silence me is to prove your points from scripture.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)