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Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:01:47 PM »

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Offline francis drake

Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2017, 05:38:04 PM »
see Mk 6:3/Lk 10:16/Mt 16:19/18:18 - wincam

Bizarre?
None of these verses address anything about a supposed "Immaculate Conception".

Did you close your eyes and play scriptural bingo?
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2017, 06:41:48 PM »
Bizarre?
None of these verses address anything about a supposed "Immaculate Conception".

Did you close your eyes and play scriptural bingo?

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Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2017, 10:25:49 PM »
Is not This the carpenter,
The son of Mary,
The brother of James, and Joses,
And of Juda, and Simon?
And are not His sister's here with us?
And they were offended by Him.'

(Mark 6:3)

* These heard the Living Word (the Lord Jesus Christ) saw the works that He did, but were blind to the evidence of His divinity, (because of unbelief).  They looked through the eyes of the flesh, seeing only the man who had grown up among them, who worked as a carpenter and was one of other children born of Mary.

'He That heareth you hearers Me;
And He that despiseth you  despiseth Me;
And He that despiseth Me; despiseth Him that sent Me.'

(Luke 10:16)

* The men in the previous verse were guilty of this.

'And I shall give unto thee the keys of the Kingdom of heaven:
And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
And whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.'

(Matthew 16:19)

'Verily I say unto you
Whatsoever he shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
And whatsoever he shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.'

(Matt. 18:18)

* Following Peter's divinely revealed confession of faith in Matthew 16:16, concerning the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, ie.., 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God' (that God given Truth which was the ROCK upon which the Church of Christ was being built): the Lord says the words of Matthew 16:19 to him.

* In Matthew 18:18, the words of Matthew 16:19 are repeated, following an example of when, how and why that authority, given, should be exercised.

In Christ Jesus
Cariad

None of these verses have one iota to do with the "immaculate conception", which is an appalling Catholic heresy.
I suggest you google the words to find out what it means before posting any further nonsense.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline John

Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2017, 11:26:22 PM »
 There is no concept of 'immaculate conception' in the bible.
It is a man made concept intended to take glory away from Jesus.

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Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 12:47:13 AM »
Not sure abortion is right. I hear in America there have been protests on it. 

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Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 06:20:48 AM »
None of these verses have one iota to do with the "immaculate conception", which is an appalling Catholic heresy.
I suggest you google the words to find out what it means before posting any further nonsense.
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that is of course according to you - so what do they have to do with according to you - where does it say it is an appalling Catholic heresy - you are making all this up as you go = pure imagination - please do not post nonsense stating I am posting nonsense - wincam
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Offline francis drake

Re: Immaculate Conception...... in the bible
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 08:54:40 AM »
None of these verses have one iota to do with the "immaculate conception", which is an appalling Catholic heresy.
I suggest you google the words to find out what it means before posting any further nonsense.
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that is of course according to you - so what do they have to do with according to you - where does it say it is an appalling Catholic heresy - you are making all this up as you go = pure imagination - please do not post nonsense stating I am posting nonsense - wincam
Catholic Encyclopedia.
In the Constitution Ineffabilis Deus of 8 December, 1854, Pius IX pronounced and defined that the Blessed Virgin Mary "in the first instance of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin."


The Immaculate Conception heresy along with the false title of Co-redemptrix (as posted on your other thread https://www.1faith.co.uk/?topic=9976.0) both detract from the righteousness Jesus has as sole Redeemer. They also encourage pagan idolatry of Mary,

Fact1. Mary was a sinner in need of a redeemer just like the rest of mankind.
Fact2. It was Jesus's blood alone that atoned and redeemed mankind, not Mary's blood. She is not a redeemer or redemptrix.
https://www.1faith.co.uk/?topic=9976.0
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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