Author Topic: Modern Third Heaven and Near Death (NDE) experiences  (Read 76 times)

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Re: Modern Third Heaven and Near Death (NDE) experiences
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 05:12:38 PM »
Hi Frances
still not convinced there are many that say these things and no disrespect but this would be a good way for satan to lead people astray I think ill stick to what our Lord says.

Joh 3:13  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
   


according to these words of our lord only he has descended and ascended and as you know Frances I like to stick with what the scriptures tell me.

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Re: Modern Third Heaven and Near Death (NDE) experiences
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 05:33:48 PM »
Hi Frances
still not convinced there are many that say these things and no disrespect but this would be a good way for satan to lead people astray I think ill stick to what our Lord says.
The majority of these testimonies result in people having a deeper walk with God, so its hardly a success at leading people astray! And Satan has been leading so called bible scholars astray for thousands of years without the help of NDEs.
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Joh 3:13  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
   

according to these words of our lord only he has descended and ascended and as you know Frances I like to stick with what the scriptures tell me.
If you truly stuck to scripture Dave as you claim, you would acknowledge that Paul ascended to heaven subsequent to Jesus speaking that verse. Unless of course you think that Paul was also deceived by Satan?
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)