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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2017, 08:51:18 AM »

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I am still curious about the father - mother relationship as compared to the Father God relatonship.

And the comparison between the two.

I am really interested with  this unconditonal parental care and God's parental care and the difference between the two

'My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.'

(Pro 1:8-9) 

Hi Tes,

I believe I understand what you mean.  Many years ago now, I remember finding a verse which showed the difference beautifully, but I can't think of it at the moment.  It showed the nursing Mother's love as giving love unconditionally , but the Father's love being the love that reproved and chastened: wanting the best for the child in regard to it's moral and spiritual growth, and it's safety too. The two are equally necessary to a child's development.  Both are found in the Godhead.

It is reflected in Paul's words to the Thessalonians in 1 Thess. 2:7-9

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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2017, 11:50:21 PM »
thanks Cariad  :D

Hope you manage to find that verse - Amen

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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2017, 11:50:15 AM »
I am still curious about the father - mother relationship as compared to the Father God relatonship.

And the comparison between the two.

I am really interested with  this unconditonal parental care and God's parental care and the difference between the two

Hello again, Tes,

When considering the dealings of God with Israel, His chosen people, it is evident that He deals with them as 'sons'.  Knowing their sinful nature, His love for them is manifested in corrective ways, to save them from themselves, and to produce within them a godly fear, which would prevent them ever having to know the outpouring of His wrath as a Holy God.

A Mother makes known to her children what behaviours are acceptable and what are not; but it is the Father who enforces them.  Both are motivated by love  for the child.

'My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD;
neither be weary of His correction:
For whom the LORD loveth He correcteth;
even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.'

(Pro 3:11) 

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Cariad




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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 12:14:37 AM »
excellent thanks

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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 01:00:44 PM »
thanks Cariad  :D

Hope you manage to find that verse - Amen
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Hi Tes,

I have discovered that the Scripture I was seeking to remember is the one I have actually quoted (1 Thess.2:7-9) with the addition of 1 Thessalonians 2:11.  I have also found the book on my shelves, which I read concerning this, and will just give you the gist of it. It comes in a section entitled, 'Symbols of Service'.

'But we were gentle among you,
even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
So being affectionately desirous of you,
we were willing to have imparted unto you,
not the gospel of God only,
but also our own souls,
(ie., own selves)
because ye were dear unto us.
For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail:
for labouring night and day,
because we would not be chargeable unto any of you,
we preached unto you the gospel of God.'

(1Thess. 2:7-9)

The meaning of Paul's words, 'as a nurse cherisheth her children', loses something in translation, for he actually says that he cherished them as a nurse cherisheth her own children. This is much more in line with Biblical usage than with our own conception of a nurse.  In Isaiah 49:23 we read of 'kings' as nursing-fathers, and queens as nursing-mothers, in the days of Israel's glory.  Naomi, in Ruth 4:16 and the mother of Moses in Exodus 2:7,9 are nurses of this type.  And Moses in Numbers 11, exclaims,

'Have I conceived all this people? 
Have I begotten them, that Thou shouldest say unto me,
"Carry them in thy bosom,
as a nursing father beareth the sucking child"?'

(Num.11:12)

It seems that Paul intends the Thessalonians to understand that he had been both nursing-mother and nursing-father to them. For in 1 Thess. 2:11, he goes on to say,

'As ye know how we exhorted
and comforted and charged every one of you,
as a father doth his children
,'


The role is characterised by gentleness, cherishing, and a willingness to impart his own self; a labour that makes no charge for it's services, with the object that the children of such love and care should, 'walk worthy of God, Who hath called you unto His kingdom and glory' (1 Thess. 2:12).

It is important to note the two sides of this wonderful ministry.  There is the gentle cherishing that we rightly associate with the mother's care; and the exhortation and discipline that is that of a Father's love.  Both are necessary, whether for the actual child at home, or for the believer growing up in the faith.  All gentleness, or all discipline, is not good for either child or believer.  A blend of the two, with the unselfishness that characterizes the feelings of a parent is as near an ideal of ministry as this world affords.

Unconditional Love in action!

PRAISE GOD!

In Christ Jesus
Chris







Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2017, 12:03:47 AM »
Excellent I will have too chew over this


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