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Offline Mountain Goat

Unconditional Love.
« on: November 30, 2017, 07:58:52 PM »

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Most of you have heard the song by Cyndi Lauper, but how many of you have known that Jesus' love for us is unconditional?  There is no qualification in Christianity. We only need to accept Jesus' love for us! No conditions. No qualifications. Just accept the love He gives to us!
If you have listened to Cyndi when she has been interviewed in the past,  you will realise that though she sings worldly songs, one thing that stood out to me that she didnt want to be with a record producer who put conditions on her work. She said she was very fortunate to find a manager who accepted her work and accepted her for who she was.
This is important for our Christian lifestyle. We need to be who Jesus Christ has made us to be without being carbon copies of a specific denomination or needing to conform to the conditions of a certain church when these conditions have nothing to do with the relationship between Us and God.
We should not put additional conditions on a believer or an unbeliever. We should only point the way to Jesus and His Word.
Remember. Jesus loves you as you are! It is not the case where we have conditions before He can love us. All we need to do is accept His love for us! Simple.


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Offline John

Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 08:44:04 PM »
Very true MG,
                    We don't, we can't earn or deservr God's love and the fact that the 2nd person of the trinity was willing to die in order to save us tells us that his love is beyond our ability to understand it.
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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 08:44:16 PM »
I too believe His love is unconditional. However, I also believe when we are followers of Him, we will want to live our lives to serve and please Him.  I personally do not believe we can live just anyway we want and still go to Heaven, even though we believe He is Who He is.  If you ask most people if they believe in God, they'll say yes.  But believing God is God and Jesus is His Son alone will not get us into the gates.  "Faith without works is dead, being alone," according to the Word.  If we have faith, commit our lives to Him, and follow His word, we will try our best to do what is right at all times.  We will have a boat load of integrity, and will do the right thing even when no one is watching, just for the love of Him.  Will we be perfect?  No way!  But we will strive for it!  I am overwhelmed every day that He would love me enough to save me, and die for me.  God bless all!!! :)
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Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 12:27:28 AM »
Do you think it is dangerous to create a metaphor between earthly fathers and our Heavenly Father ?

Bearing in mind - that no matter what we do we can never please our earthly father !

In other words "those abused are getting the message [you must please Him]

Making God no better  than their earthly counterparts...

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I say this because there is somone here, hiding away - you are hiding something from the past from yourself

Through this you are being drawn back to the negative in your past and you desperately want to move on





Unconditional love however from earthly parents is not good [I agree]


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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2017, 02:07:22 PM »
Hi
I don't seam to be able to find the words unconditional love in the scripture and not to sure what it means I know that God Loved us while we were still sinners.

Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
   


that God and Christ loved us is not an issue the question is are there conditions attached to that love I think maybe there are.

Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
   


And what are the commandments we have received from our Lord.

Mar 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31  And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mat 5:43  Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
   


Are not these commandments conditions for being children of our Father in Heaven.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline John

Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 02:40:32 PM »
Dave,
          "the question is are there conditions attached to that love I think maybe there are."
                                     and
"Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

                               Are direct contradictions.
Jesus died for us when we hated him. There are No conditions in his love for us.

Ho could Jesus say to those who regard him as an enemy, 'If you will do xxxxx I will die for you?

It is nonsence.


If you want to talk about conditions there are some, namely

We have to repent.
We have to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour.
We have to seek to love Jesus.

Those are the only conditions to being a Christian or to being Loved by Jesus.

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Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2017, 03:49:05 PM »
I too believe His love is unconditional. However, I also believe when we are followers of Him, we will want to live our lives to serve and please Him.  I personally do not believe we can live just anyway we want and still go to Heaven, even though we believe He is Who He is.  If you ask most people if they believe in God, they'll say yes.  But believing God is God and Jesus is His Son alone will not get us into the gates.  "Faith without works is dead, being alone," according to the Word.  If we have faith, commit our lives to Him, and follow His word, we will try our best to do what is right at all times.  We will have a boat load of integrity, and will do the right thing even when no one is watching, just for the love of Him.  Will we be perfect?  No way!  But we will strive for it!  I am overwhelmed every day that He would love me enough to save me, and die for me.  God bless all!!! :)
Hello there,

The believers in the assembly at Corinth, had those within it that were living lives that were far from honouring to God.  However, though Paul condemned their sin, He did not condemn the sinner.

The work of the Holy Spirit upon the heart and life of the redeemed child of God, will convict of sin and of righteousness, and the application of the Word of God will wash and cleanse the mind and bring about a transformation. That is the work of salvation within. It is an ongoing work.

Yet, the moment the sinner believes God, concerning His need of a Saviour, and places his trust in the redeeming work of Christ, who died to save Him, He is saved, absolutely, on the basis of the blood shed on his behalf. His sins, past, present and future are dealt with: he is forgiven, and will not come into condemnation.  That is his standing before God, as a sinner saved by grace. Yes, God's love is unconditional, and His salvation is granted because of His wondrous grace, or unmerited favour.

Sin brings consequences, we sow what we reap, and a life lived in disobedience to the will of God will result in misery for the one indulging in it.  Yet it will not deprive him of salvation.  He will live, but will suffer loss.

The work of salvation has begun in the believers life, and it will continue until the day of Christ.  Though saved absolutely and entirely in regard to his standing before God, the work of sanctification continues.

We are God's workmanship.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Cariad

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Unconditional Love.
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2017, 01:31:20 AM »
I am still curious about the father - mother relationship as compared to the Father God relatonship.

And the comparison between the two.

I am really interested with  this unconditonal parental care and God's parental care and the difference between the two


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