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Offline francis drake

Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 07:21:00 PM »

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imho most Christians are on an ego trip to hell claiming inspiration, guidance and indwelling by the Holy Spirit and not accepting that they are fragmented, fallible and fallen and producing fruits that are an unforgiveable blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - knowing not nor willing to accept that like the Pharisees of old they do err not knowing the scriptures[Mk.12:24] - I have discovered that most errors and mistakes occur because we apply to ourselves what does not apply to us e.g.Jn 14:17 - according to Hebrews now is the time of the Church where to hear His voice - the Holy Spirit has impeccably done what He was consigned to do and we have the scriptures that they did not have etc - twinc   

Wincam, are you saying we no longer need the gifts of the Spirit because we have the bible?
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2017, 12:37:21 AM »
Wincam, are you saying we no longer need the gifts of the Spirit because we have the bible?

not just the bible but the Church also - a double wammy so there can be no excuse - we do nol have the gifts or the fruits of the Spirit - twinc 
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Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2017, 01:01:16 AM »
No bible and no Church ?

So where do you get your fellowship - on the web maybe ?

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Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2017, 06:10:08 AM »
No bible and no Church ?

So where do you get your fellowship - on the web maybe ?
No bible and no Church ?

So where do you get your fellowship - on the web maybe ?


where = bible fellowship/Church fellowship - twinc
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Offline John

Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2017, 02:26:20 PM »
I think you are beng extreme  wincam in saying:-
"not just the bible but the Church also - a double wammy so there can be no excuse - we do nol have the gifts or the fruits of the Spirit "

There are gifts of the spirit which are not showy like tongues and one gift is vital for us and that is the gift of faith.

We all need to have the fruits of the spirit. Would you want to live without the fruit of peace or joy?




Offline francis drake

Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2017, 08:11:09 PM »
not just the bible but the Church also - a double wammy so there can be no excuse - we do nol have the gifts or the fruits of the Spirit - twinc

If we don't have the fruits or the gifts of the Holy Spirit, then every last thing we do comes from the flesh.
That makes us no better than the Pharisees.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2017, 09:14:45 PM »
I think you are beng extreme  wincam in saying:-
"not just the bible but the Church also - a double wammy so there can be no excuse - we do nol have the gifts or the fruits of the Spirit "

There are gifts of the spirit which are not showy like tongues and one gift is vital for us and that is the gift of faith.

We all need to have the fruits of the spirit. Would you want to live without the fruit of peace or joy?


we need the fruits right enough that is not the problem - the problem is we do not have them even after all these centuries - check it out for yourself what we have is division, discontent, differences, deception, errors, confusion, confrontation disunity, disharmony and chaos all claimed as a result of inspiration and guidance - twinc 

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Re: Strange fire 2017
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2017, 09:21:03 PM »
If we don't have the fruits or the gifts of the Holy Spirit, then every last thing we do comes from the flesh.
That makes us no better than the Pharisees.


exactly so  - we do not have the gifts and fruits - what we have is division, disunity, disharmony, errors, contradictions, confusion and madness attributed to inspiration and guidance via the Holy Spirit = what we have is blasphemy imho - twinc
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