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Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #88 on: April 25, 2018, 08:50:10 PM »
Hi Deborah
Back to the subject in Hand

Heb 7:23  And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
Heb 7:24  But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
Heb 7:25  Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
   


V23 I suppose this is true of to day there are no end of priests from every denomination but there is only one high priest over all and he is the one we need to listen to we know his word is true and trustworthy.
V24 Yes our Lord will be our high priest for all eternity he cannot die so we can trust in him entirely no one can snatch us out of his hand.
V25 Like you said in your previous post its through him and by him we come into the presence of God how wonderful.

Love and Peace
Dave

v23 Be careful again, Dave; 'priests' in Christian churches aren't supposed to be priests in the same sense as the Biblical priests. Just because the word is the same, it doesn't follow that the meaning is the same. The writer of the letter is talking about the Levitical priests.
They each held office only for a short time, before dying and being replaced. That's why there were so many of them! They were ordinary mortals who couldn't even preserve their own lives, let alone impart life to others.
v24 But Jesus will never die, and so His priesthood will never be superseded; it will last for ever! So whatever the future holds, we can be sure that He will always be there for us.
v25 No-one will ever approach God in need of salvation and fail to find it; for Jesus will be alive and acting on their behalf. This is tremendous assurance for us, for salvation isn't just a one-off event in the past; it's an ongoing process with a final completion that's still in the future. But Jesus' work will never be interrupted. He stands permanently between our sinfulness and the holiness of God, shielding us from His wrath.
Jesus' life has no end and His power has no limits. So nothing needs to be added to the salvation that He offers; it is fully and finally effective.
And He is continually praying for us, supporting and sustaining us throughout our earthly pilgrimage. We can be confident that He will never fail us!
Wonderful indeed!

And one could add that, because Jesus does all these things for us, we don't need any other priests. So Christian church leaders really shouldn't be called priests - it's confusing.
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2018, 10:05:32 AM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply yes our high priest is the only one we have to obey and follow his every word.

.  26  For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

 27  Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

 28  For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore     


V26 Here we have a description of our high priest 1at he is holy without sin next he is harmless not sure what to make of this he has access to all the power of heaven is it because he does not use it he is harmless.
Then undefiled and separated from sinners which means he is sinless and nothing sinful can come into his presence only those who have been washed clean in his blood.
Next he has been raised up to the highest heaven and sits at the right hand of God the father waiting for all his enemies to be made his footstool how wonderful.
V27 here we see a comparison between the old priesthood and the new the old required sacrifices every day when our Lord offered up his self once and for all time there was no need for any other sacrifice and the blood of the cross cleanses us from all sin.
V28 Here we see the priests of the old dispensation were made priests by th written word of the law which is facing away.
But our high priest was made a high priest by the path given by God the father and is a permanent priesthood that has no end.
So Christ our high priest is able to save all who come to him because he is a priest for ever.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #90 on: May 03, 2018, 09:08:58 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply yes our high priest is the only one we have to obey and follow his every word.

.  26  For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

 27  Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

 28  For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore     


V26 Here we have a description of our high priest 1at he is holy without sin next he is harmless not sure what to make of this he has access to all the power of heaven is it because he does not use it he is harmless.
Then undefiled and separated from sinners which means he is sinless and nothing sinful can come into his presence only those who have been washed clean in his blood.
Next he has been raised up to the highest heaven and sits at the right hand of God the father waiting for all his enemies to be made his footstool how wonderful.
V27 here we see a comparison between the old priesthood and the new the old required sacrifices every day when our Lord offered up his self once and for all time there was no need for any other sacrifice and the blood of the cross cleanses us from all sin.
V28 Here we see the priests of the old dispensation were made priests by th written word of the law which is facing away.
But our high priest was made a high priest by the path given by God the father and is a permanent priesthood that has no end.
So Christ our high priest is able to save all who come to him because he is a priest for ever.

Love and Peace
Dave

v26 "Such a high priest truly meets our need - one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens." I'll go with the NIV; 'blameless' makes a lot more sense than 'harmless'. These are the reasons why Jesus is the ideal High Priest.
Aaron wore a badge of holiness on his turban (Exodus 28:36-38) and had to meet certain standards of ceremonial purity (Leviticus 21); but only Jesus succeeded in living a truly holy life, completely free from sin and impurity, and dedicated to doing God's will. And because He is exalted to heaven and enthroned in His Father's very presence, He can meet all our needs.
v27 Although truly human (and thus able to represent us before God), His sinlessness meant that He never had to offer a sacrifice for His own sins; instead, He Himself could be the sacrifice. And His own perfect life was a better sacrifice than anything brought into the Temple courts! Because it was fully acceptable, it needed to be made only once in the whole history of mankind.
v28 Despite its imperfections, the Levitical priesthood served its purpose: its functions were meaningful and its sacrifices effective in their own limited way. But it could never be the solution to the problem of sin, because it was itself part of the problem.
The purity of the Levitical priests was confined to external things; but Christ showed Himself to be perfect through and through. So He is the very last High Priest. His ministry has fulfilled and put an end to the entire system of Jewish Temple worship (priests, sacrifices, festivals and dietary laws).
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #91 on: May 04, 2018, 04:08:13 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your post I enjoyed reading it as I am sure many others will.

Heb 8:1  Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb 8:2  A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Heb 8:3  For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
Heb 8:4  For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
 


V1 Here the writer confirms we have such a high priest as described above and who is sat on the right hand of God the father 
V2 Here the writer tells us of the true sanctuary and tabernacle witch the Lord has created in heaven through the sacrifice he made here on earth when he offered up himself for the sins of the world.
V3 The law stated that the priests were to offer sacrifices for there sins and the sins of the people but we know our High priest was sinless and need not offer sacrifices for his sins and being sinless he would be the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.
V4 here we are reminded that our high priest is in Heaven a priest for ever an the right hand of God the father presiding over the true tabernacle.

These words of King David express it much better than I ever could.

  1Ch 29:10  Wherefore David blessed the LORD before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, LORD God of Israel our father, for ever and ever.
1Ch 29:11  Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
1Ch 29:12  Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all.
1Ch 29:13  Now therefore, our God, we thank thee, and praise thy glorious name.
   
 

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #92 on: May 05, 2018, 10:30:29 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your post I enjoyed reading it as I am sure many others will.

Heb 8:1  Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb 8:2  A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Heb 8:3  For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
Heb 8:4  For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
 


V1 Here the writer confirms we have such a high priest as described above and who is sat on the right hand of God the father 
V2 Here the writer tells us of the true sanctuary and tabernacle witch the Lord has created in heaven through the sacrifice he made here on earth when he offered up himself for the sins of the world.
V3 The law stated that the priests were to offer sacrifices for there sins and the sins of the people but we know our High priest was sinless and need not offer sacrifices for his sins and being sinless he would be the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.
V4 here we are reminded that our high priest is in Heaven a priest for ever an the right hand of God the father presiding over the true tabernacle.

These words of King David express it much better than I ever could.

  1Ch 29:10  Wherefore David blessed the LORD before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, LORD God of Israel our father, for ever and ever.
1Ch 29:11  Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
1Ch 29:12  Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all.
1Ch 29:13  Now therefore, our God, we thank thee, and praise thy glorious name.
   
 

Love and Peace
Dave

v1 This is a summary of what has been said in chapter 7.
No Levitical priest would ever be permitted to sit in God's earthly sanctuary, the Temple. But Jesus, being the eternal Son, has been given a place of honour and authority beside the Father in heaven.
v2 Now the writer introduces a new point: that the well-known Temple in Jerusalem was not in fact the 'real thing'.
Jesus is exercising His priestly ministry in the actual presence of God, and so His ministry has none of the limitations of the ministry exercised by the Levitical priests.
v3,4 Offering sacrifices was one of the main duties of the priests. But their sacrifices were imperfect and ineffective. As we know, Jesus has offered a better sacrifice in heaven.

"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #93 on: May 07, 2018, 02:13:06 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply.

.  Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

 6  But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. note

 7  For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second     


V5 here we see that the earthly tabernacle was a copy of the heavenly and it was very important that Moses followed the pattern shown him on the mountain may be an interesting subject for study.
V6 here we see our Lord has a more excellent ministry he is a high priest for ever who serves in the true tabernacle in heaven.
We see also with a change in the priesthood we get a new covenant this covenant is based on love forgiveness and grace.
V7 so what was wrong with the first covenant I think it was based on obedience to the letter of the law and any  transgression would be punished.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #94 on: May 09, 2018, 04:08:11 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply.

.  Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

 6  But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. note

 7  For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second     


V5 here we see that the earthly tabernacle was a copy of the heavenly and it was very important that Moses followed the pattern shown him on the mountain may be an interesting subject for study.
V6 here we see our Lord has a more excellent ministry he is a high priest for ever who serves in the true tabernacle in heaven.
We see also with a change in the priesthood we get a new covenant this covenant is based on love forgiveness and grace.
V7 so what was wrong with the first covenant I think it was based on obedience to the letter of the law and any  transgression would be punished.

Love and Peace
Dave

v5 The Tabernacle was an earthly, material representation of heavenly realities; every element in its construction and every detail of its rituals conveyed spiritual truth. But it was still only a copy and not the thing itself - like every other aspect of the old covenant.
v6 The shadow has now been replaced by the reality. Not only is Christ's sacrifice of a totally different order to the Temple sacrifices, but it has made possible a completely new covenant!

v7 What was wrong with the first covenant? No need to speculate; the answer is given in verses 8-12. It couldn't cope with our sinful nature!
v8-12 A long quote from Jeremiah 31:31-34, explaining why God always intended to replace the old covenant with a new one. We can go through this in detail
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2018, 03:48:19 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply yes we can go through v8-12 in detail I will post the whole section but take it a little at a time if you have a better suggestion please feel free to post it.

Heb 8:8  For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11  And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12  For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 8:13  In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away   
 

V8 Here we see God finding fault with Israel his chosen people I think the covenant here is a reference to obedience to the law at that time there was no forgiveness for sin only the consequence's of breaking the law which was death we are told in another place if you broke any of the laws you were guilty of breaking the whole law.
This can remind us of Adam and the tree of knowledge that disobeying Gods commands can lead to expulsion from paradise and death.
We can see Israels expulsion from there Garden paradise when they were taken into Babylon But God did bring them back to the promised land maybe a foreshadowing of the resurrection.
then when they crucified our Lord Israel died cast into darkness but they will be raised up in the last days.

Love and Peace
Dave