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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2018, 02:22:40 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for another good post I am sure many will find it edifying

Heb 3:14  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Heb 3:15  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
Heb 3:16  For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
Heb 3:17  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18  And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Heb 3:19  So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.     



Yes keeping that first confidence we had when we first became Christs Its so easy to let our heart become hardened like those once saved out of Egypt died in the desert we must make sure we do not follow their example.
So while its today lets listen to his voice through his word and be renewed daily so that we may enter Gods rest which is still open and waiting for us to enter in.

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2018, 02:28:59 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for another good post I am sure many will find it edifying

Heb 3:14  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Heb 3:15  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
Heb 3:16  For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
Heb 3:17  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18  And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Heb 3:19  So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.     



Yes keeping that first confidence we had when we first became Christs Its so easy to let our heart become hardened like those once saved out of Egypt died in the desert we must make sure we do not follow their example.
So while its today lets listen to his voice through his word and be renewed daily so that we may enter Gods rest which is still open and waiting for us to enter in.

Love and Peace
Dave

v14 A successful Christian life requires more than just an enthusiastic beginning. Only those who persevere when the going gets tough and follow their initial commitment through right to the end can be sure of their place in God's Kingdom, for this is the proof (NB not the condition!) of saving faith.
v15 The writer repeats Psalm 95:7 - this is really important! God is still speaking to the readers of this letter (and to us) through His earlier revelation. Every day is a new 'Today'. Every day we are faced with the same choice: to obey or to disobey God, to follow Jesus or not to follow Him.
History doesn't need to repeat itself! We have to face the same temptations as the Israelites did, but we don't have to make the same mistakes.
v16,17 "Who were they who heard and rebelled? Were they not all those Moses led out of Egypt?" Past blessing is no insurance against future failure, as the Israelites found to their cost (Numbers 14:21-23).
v18,19 The journey that had begun with such excitement and high hopes ended in tragedy. Instead of settling down to enjoy the Promised Land (God's "rest"), they spent the rest of their lives wandering around the inhospitable wilderness - all because they refused to take God at His word. And they had no excuse for their disobedience.
"God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ." (I Thessalonians 5:9)

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2018, 05:02:39 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thanks again for another excellent post

Heb 4:1  Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2  For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3  For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
   


How could anyone ignore or jeopardise this wonderful promise of entering God Sabbath rest let us always have it before us.
What was the gospel they had preached to them that's Israel I presume was it the law because the law is all about loving God and loving your neighbour and our Lord said if we do this we keep the law.
The whole of scripture is about love loving God loving your friends and you enemies and the law mirrors this in detail its all about doing what's right to your fellow man.
and added to love is Faith faith that our lord with keep all his wonderful promises no matter how hard life becomes he is always by our side in good times and in bad.

Yes we even now can enter Gods rest resting in His promises gives peace of mind in all circumstances.

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2018, 11:48:57 AM »
Hi Dave

The 'rest' that the Israelites were looking forward to was freedom from slavery and from the threat of attack - and freedom to truly enjoy all the blessings that God had in store for them.
Obviously that's similar to the 'rest' that we will enjoy in Christ, but it isn't quite the same thing!

The writer's point is that the Israelites never actually enjoyed their 'rest' - because when they got to the very border of the Promised Land, they threw it all away, preferring to go back to slavery (Numbers 14:3,4). And something similar can happen to us: if we don't believe God's promises, we won't receive His blessings, and His word will be no more effective than it was 3500 years ago.

v3 But Israel's unbelief was not total: two individuals, Caleb and Joshua, did believe and in due course received their inheritance.
Now our story is still in progress. If we are believing God's word and acting on it, then we are on course for our promised 'rest' and can confidently expect to enjoy it.
"God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ." (I Thessalonians 5:9)

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2018, 07:10:10 PM »
I love reading about Caleb and Joshua, who's story of their lives offer us offer an example of faithful commitment to the Lord and of course it was Joshua who brought the people into the promise land eventually. They were both chosen as spies to go into the land and it was their attitude that was correct in Gods eyes. They knew God had the power to do and will keep His promises.

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2018, 02:24:35 PM »
Hi Ladies
Thank you for your replies interesting reading Interesting that Joshua and Jesus is the same name I different languages
I think we will see this in the next section.

Heb 4:4  For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5  And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6  Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7  Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8  For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
     


 I believe Gods rest mentioned here is the future Kingdom and our Joshua " Jesus " will lead us in with shouts of joy and singing praises.
Yes the word today is a tricky word it in fact means any day it is that day when you hear  is voice it could be today or it could be in 10 years time but it will still be today for the one who hears his voice but when ever we hear his voice through his word we must not harden our hearts but follow his commands to love one another.

V4 I think the name Jesus here is a reference to Joshua Israel lost  their entrance into God rest Canaan the land flowing with milk and honey.
They entered the land alright but through disobedience they did not receive all that God wanted to do for them and had no rest.

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2018, 03:54:58 PM »

 I believe Gods rest mentioned here is the future Kingdom and our Joshua " Jesus " will lead us in with shouts of joy and singing praises.


I like that, Dave! That's a really good way of putting it - Jesus is 'our' Joshua!

You're also right about the Israelites: they did enter the land, and in the book of Joshua it says that they were given rest (Joshua 23:1) But it was only a partial fulfilment of God's promise. It was a temporary 'rest' that didn't last, because the Israelites continued to disobey God.

v6,7 The disobedience of one generation could not frustrate God's purpose.  This is why Psalm 95 (written when Israel were in possession of the land) declares the promise still valid.
"God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ." (I Thessalonians 5:9)

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Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2018, 02:31:27 PM »
Hi and Thanks for your reply Deborah.

Heb 4:9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10  For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11  Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Heb 4:12  For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.     


V9 We have Gods rest waiting for us it is a sure and certain promise we jest need to believe.
V10 Do we enter Gods rest when we accepted into the Body of Christ and even when we go down to the Grave we can rest easy Knowing when we awake we will be in Gods Sabbath rest his glorious Kingdom.
V11 In this life we need to work doing Gods work to the best of our ability studying and spreading his word of truth to the best of our ability Knowing he is always by our side to help and support.
V4 I think this verse speaks for itself it jest shows how wonderful and powerful Gods word is.

Love and Peace
Dave