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Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #184 on: September 13, 2018, 02:44:17 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply always a good read.

Heb 13:10  We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
Heb 13:11  For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
Heb 13:12  Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Heb 13:13  Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.       


V 10 Of course our alter is the cross on which the lamb of God was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world what great Love has the father and son to sacrifice so much for sinners to wash us clean in his blood so that we can enter his eternal rest thank you Lord
V 11 here the writer likens the temple sacrifices to what happend to our lord he was taken outside  the city walls our Lord said somewhere else he came to fulfil the law I believe he also meant the sacrifcial system but on a much higher level.
V 12 Yes he suffered outside the camp outside the city walls here he gave his life for us he lost his life that we could gain life.
V 13 I think outside the camp here could mean out side of Israels sacrificial system His sacrifice was a one time for ever sacrifice it was perfect and could never be bettered so let us give thanks to our Lord and savior for all he has done fore us.

Love and Peace   
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #185 on: September 14, 2018, 12:47:02 PM »

V 10 Of course our alter is the cross on which the lamb of God was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world what great Love has the father and son to sacrifice so much for sinners to wash us clean in his blood so that we can enter his eternal rest thank you Lord
V 11 here the writer likens the temple sacrifices to what happend to our lord he was taken outside  the city walls our Lord said somewhere else he came to fulfil the law I believe he also meant the sacrifcial system but on a much higher level.
V 12 Yes he suffered outside the camp outside the city walls here he gave his life for us he lost his life that we could gain life.
V 13 I think outside the camp here could mean out side of Israels sacrificial system His sacrifice was a one time for ever sacrifice it was perfect and could never be bettered so let us give thanks to our Lord and savior for all he has done fore us.

Love and Peace   
Dave

v10 Our spiritual strength comes not from anything that we do (or eat!) but from Christ - and it is to Him (who is both our altar and our sacrifice) that we must go daily.
It is no longer possible to live by the Old Covenant, as if Christ had not come. Judaism has ceased to be an adequate expression of faith in God, because all its rituals have been fulfilled in Christ.
v11,12 The priests were not allowed to eat the meat of the national sin offering on the Day of Atonement. And those who are determined to remain under the Old Covenant cannot benefit from its fulfilment in Jesus.
That meat was burned 'outside the camp' in an unclean place. It was therefore appropriate that Jesus should have been put to death and buried 'outside the city gate', for crucifixion was a death of shame. But by His sacrifice, even 'outsiders' (i.e. Gentiles) are made holy.
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I think outside the camp here could mean out side of Israels sacrificial system
No - 'outside the camp' was where the 'unclean' people had to live (such as the lepers). It was a place of rejection, and it symbolised separation from God.
Being united with Christ means that we will experience, in however small a way, the suffering and rejection that He experienced. To take our stand with Him will mean bringing upon ourselves the contempt of the world. For Jewish believers, this meant leaving the relative safety of Judaism (a 'permitted religion' under Roman law) and being regarded as traitors and apostates.
If we are following Jesus, we must expect Him to lead us out of our comfort zones!
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #186 on: September 15, 2018, 01:20:53 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your post as for v 13I can agree with what you said.



 14  For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

 15  By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. note

 16  But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased         


V 14 no we have no city here but we are absolutely certain that we have one to come the heavenly Jerusalem that will come down from heaven in the last day let us look forward to that day and thank God for showing us these things.
V 15 So let us give praise to God for all his wonderful promises always remembering to thank him in our prayers and to inform others.
V 16 Never forgetting to do good to help others when opportunity arises and to communicate the good news and the reason for happy out look on life knowing that all God's promises will be realised in the fullness of time.

Love and Peace
Dave


Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #187 on: September 18, 2018, 09:13:35 AM »

V 14 no we have no city here but we are absolutely certain that we have one to come the heavenly Jerusalem that will come down from heaven in the last day let us look forward to that day and thank God for showing us these things.
V 15 So let us give praise to God for all his wonderful promises always remembering to thank him in our prayers and to inform others.
V 16 Never forgetting to do good to help others when opportunity arises and to communicate the good news and the reason for happy out look on life knowing that all God's promises will be realised in the fullness of time.

Love and Peace
Dave

v14 We are not seeking to find - or even make - a paradise on this earth; our hopes (like Abraham's) are fixed on the age to come.
v15 The Christian life is radical and demanding - but it is also a life full of gratitude and praise.
Like the priests of the old covenant, we have sacrifices to offer daily (I Peter 2:5). Our sacrifices are not of animals, for our redemption or atonement, but 'spiritual sacrifices' that express our devotion to God: worship, thanksgiving, courageous testimony, and loving service.
v16 Worship is a communal activity, not to be divorced from our relationships with other people. Just as the meat of a fellowship offering was shared in a large communal meal (see Leviticus 7:11-18), so Christians respond to Christ's sacrifice by sharing our resources with each other and with the poor. This is the kind of worship that God likes to receive! (Psalm 69:30,31)
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #188 on: September 20, 2018, 09:51:53 AM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for another good post interesting how the OT  laws has relevance for us today thanks for pointing that out.

.17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. note

 18  Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly.

 19  But I beseech you the rather to do this, that I may be restored to you the sooner       


V 17 who is it who has the rule over us is it the local priests bishops the pope hard to know who to obey I think it is better to obey our Lord Jesus and the writings of his apostles if we keep with in the bounds of scripture we won't go far wrong.
By all means listen to your minister's cut be sure to weigh what they say against the word of God.
V 18 Prey for all those who preach the word of God that they will do it honestly and with a clear conscience keeping with in the bounds of scripture.
V 19 Here the writer of the letter is asking for the prayers of his readers so let us pray for all the leaders of the one true church which is the body of Christ which I believe is dispersed throughout all denominations and sects all those who's heart is right with God

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #189 on: September 20, 2018, 10:00:55 AM »

V 17 who is it who has the rule over us is it the local priests bishops the pope hard to know who to obey I think it is better to obey our Lord Jesus and the writings of his apostles if we keep with in the bounds of scripture we won't go far wrong.
By all means listen to your minister's cut be sure to weigh what they say against the word of God.
V 18 Prey for all those who preach the word of God that they will do it honestly and with a clear conscience keeping with in the bounds of scripture.
V 19 Here the writer of the letter is asking for the prayers of his readers so let us pray for all the leaders of the one true church which is the body of Christ which I believe is dispersed throughout all denominations and sects all those who's heart is right with God

Love and Peace
Dave

v17 The writer assumes that all Christians are part of a local church! Our leaders are the ministers/vicars/pastors of the churches.
They have a duty to counter false teaching and rebuke sin, and the congregation must accept this without resistance or resentment. A sullen, unco-operative church is a nightmare for its leaders; their task is difficult enough without us adding to the burden. We are accountable to them, and they in turn are accountable to God. We submit to them for their benefit, but also for ours!
v18,19 Above all, church leaders need our prayers if they are to fulfil their duties with honesty and integrity. They are also need God's help and protection.
The writer of this letter is no 'superman'; he needed prayer as well!
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #190 on: September 21, 2018, 04:26:52 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply

Heb 13:20  Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Heb 13:21  Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Heb 13:22  And I beseech you, brethren, suffer the word of exhortation: for I have written a letter unto you in few words.
Heb 13:23  Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.
Heb 13:24  Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.
Heb 13:25  Grace be with you all. Amen.     


V 20 The God of peace and Love this is the paramount message of scripture from our wonderful creator God who raised up our Lord Jesus Chris and he will also raise up all those who are in Christ who have been washed in the word of God and cleansed in the blood of Christ according to the everlasting Covenant which God Promised to Abraham all things God has promised will be fulfilled.
V 21yes may God make us perfect to do every good work which he wants us to do to further his creation and to bring all things together in Christ always striving our best to do his will.
V22   Yes let us  suffer the word of exhortation all the words of this wonderful letter they are for all believer through all ages some may be hard to bare but they are for enlightenment and well being.
V 23/24/25 these are final greeting to the recipients of the letter and are self explanatory I would like to end this study of Hebrews with verse 25.
Heb 13:25  Grace be with you all. Amen.

Love and Peace
Dave

   

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #191 on: September 22, 2018, 10:14:56 AM »

V 20 The God of peace and Love this is the paramount message of scripture from our wonderful creator God who raised up our Lord Jesus Chris and he will also raise up all those who are in Christ who have been washed in the word of God and cleansed in the blood of Christ according to the everlasting Covenant which God Promised to Abraham all things God has promised will be fulfilled.
V 21yes may God make us perfect to do every good work which he wants us to do to further his creation and to bring all things together in Christ always striving our best to do his will.
V22   Yes let us  suffer the word of exhortation all the words of this wonderful letter they are for all believer through all ages some may be hard to bare but they are for enlightenment and well being.
V 23/24/25 these are final greeting to the recipients of the letter and are self explanatory I would like to end this study of Hebrews with verse 25.
Heb 13:25  Grace be with you all. Amen.

Love and Peace
Dave

   

v20 Now the writer prays for his readers - which includes us!
Our God is the God of peace, who wants to bless us. He is the God who raised Jesus from the dead, who is truly all-powerful.
Jesus is the chief Shepherd ( local church leaders are merely His representatives), who established the new covenant through His death, and who now leads us from death into new life through His resurrection.
v21 Everything that we need to do God's will is available to us through Christ. He can not only supply what is needed, but also restore what is broken.

v22 Many people believe that this latter was originally a sermon; it's a long letter but a short sermon! 
v23,24 As was the custom, the letter ends with some personal messages.
v25 Now, as always, we are utterly dependent on God's grace.

"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)