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Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #176 on: September 05, 2018, 05:23:19 PM »

V 25 we must be very careful to listen to what God has to say through all his prophets and apostels and his beloved son he has spoken to us all through his word when he spoke to Israel through Moses there where terrible consequences for disobedience how much more so if we refuse to listen to our lord who speaks to us from heaven.
we are not under the law but under grace but there are still consequences if we abuse that grace.

V 26 This verse takes us back to Moses and the mountain it was so terrible the people could not stand it God certainly shook the earth at that time and we have gods word that he will do it again not only the earth but the heavens too.

V 27 the things that can be shaken are the thing that have bean made the things that remain are those things that are eternal into which we shall enter.


Love and Peace

Dave

v25 If our privileges under the new covenant are so much greater, then so too are our responsibilities. It was a serious matter to reject the the Law; but the consequences of rejecting the Gospel are devastating.
v26 For there is going to be a final Day of Judgement. The shaking of Mount Sinai was but a small foretaste of how the whole world (and even God's own heavenly dwelling-place) will be shaken when the King returns to claim His Kingdom (Revelation 16:17-20).
v27 As those who live in earthquake zones know, everything in this life is fragile. All the things that we might be tempted to rely upon - family, health, wealth, government - are vulnerable to sudden disaster. We are accustomed to thinking of 'spiritual' things as being shadowy and insubstantial, while material things are solid and 'real'. But in fact it is the other way round... Since the spiritual is indestructible, it is not less solid than matter, but more solid! So when God comes, everything that does not draw its life from Him will disintegrate.
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #177 on: September 06, 2018, 11:47:20 AM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply

   1  Let brotherly love continue.

 2  Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 3  Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body     


V 1 Brotherly love one of the greatest commands in scripture to love our brother's and sisters in Christ to put them first to be there servant as our Lord showed us when he washed the apostles feet.
Just think the Lord of all the earth stopping down to do such a menial task let him be our example.
V 2 Here we are reminded to be kind thoughtful and helpful even to those we do not know because we do not know who they may be.
V 3 here we are asked to remember all our brother's and sisters who are suffering all sorts of adversity throughout the world and in some cases even dying for there faith let us pray for them and that the Lord will strengthen them in their your of need.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #178 on: September 06, 2018, 12:16:51 PM »
You've missed out a couple of verses, Dave!

ch12 v28,29
"Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our 'God is a consuming fire.'"

The many kingdoms of earth will vanish as if they had never been, and God's triumph will be absolute (Daniel 2:44). And we have been promised an inheritance in this permanent and indestructible Kingdom - so the prospect of the end of the world should hold no terrors for us!
Although the Gospel message appears to be more benign than the Law, both come from the same God - and He is the same holy and righteous God that He has always been. We need to keep reminding ourselves of this, lest our gospel confidence morph into a casual 'God is my mate' attitude. A God who deserves no reverence surely has no relevance; why worship Him at all? Those who witnessed the fire of God instinctively prostrated themselves before His glory and majesty (see Leviticus 9:24). It is appropriate for our worship to be joyful, but it should never be frivolous.

ch 13 v1 Worship, of course, is what we do all the time; it is the way we live our lives and relate to one another. We are more than just ?members? of a church - we are a family, and we must behave accordingly. Brotherly love isn't an occasional exercise, when we feel like it; it should be the atmosphere that we continually breathe. Nor is it just a warm internal feeling; it must be expressed in practical ways.
v2 Hospitality is a particularly important ministry - and those who practise it generously and ungrudgingly often receive more than they give. Abraham and Lot were both unusually blessed as a result. We must make it our habit, if we are not to miss the angelic occasions!
v3 Brotherly love is especially important during times of persecution, because those who are suffering for their faith need extra support and encouragement. Because we are a body, what happens to one member (whether good or bad) affects every other member - and so a member who is in difficulty should be helped by all the others. 
Prisoners were harshly treated, and often dependent on outside help for food and other material needs. The kindness shown by other believers (often at considerable personal risk) was greatly appreciated! (for an example, see II Timothy 1:16)

"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #179 on: September 06, 2018, 02:37:50 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for spotting my deliberate mistake  :embarrassed: only joking not sure what went wrong not concentrating properly

Heb 12:28  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Heb 12:29  For our God is a consuming fire.     


V 28 God has promised us an unshakeable Kingdom that can not be moved not only that but an eternal kingdom  the kingdom of our King Jesus Christ so lets make sure we continue to serve and worship him in reverence and Godly fear so that we may enter into that glorious Kingdom.

V 29 Yes our God is a consuming fire what dose that mean the fraise is first used in the OT

Deu 9:3  Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee.
   
 

So as I see it God went over into the promised land before Israel and as consuming ire he would destroy them before the Israelites.
and In the same way he goes before us to clear the way as a consuming fire and I believe that we are that consuming fire to overcome the world as John the Baptist made clear.

 Mat_3:11  I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
       


All those who are Baptised with fire become Gods consuming fire we consume into his body new members out of the world by spreading his word.

How could I miss all that must be getting old.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #180 on: September 08, 2018, 02:41:31 PM »
Hi Deborah
After that little hiccup  maybe we can get back on track.


Heb 13:4  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
Heb 13:5  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Heb 13:6  So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
     



V 4 these commands will most proberbly  not go down to well in this day and age which is a great pity but we see clearly there are consequences for not obeying not only are they breaking the written but also the laws of love if we cannot love the partner we choose how can we love others.
V 5 Yet again this is difficult in this day and age when we are bombarded from every side with the things of this world which must have and keeping up with the fashion and many parents struggle so hard and go into debt to satisfy there children's wants our writer gives the answer be content with what you have and remember the Lord is always with you through thick and thin.
V 6  Yes let us say with the writer of this letter The Lord is my helper he will never leave us and what can man do to us with such a wonderful helper.
 being a Christian will never be an easy road to travel people will put you down and call you names ridicule you some will be abusive and violent but keep the faith knowing who we have believed and rely on his promises he has said I will never leave you.

Love and Peace
Dave       

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #181 on: September 09, 2018, 09:06:20 PM »

V 4 these commands will most proberbly  not go down to well in this day and age which is a great pity but we see clearly there are consequences for not obeying not only are they breaking the written but also the laws of love if we cannot love the partner we choose how can we love others.
V 5 Yet again this is difficult in this day and age when we are bombarded from every side with the things of this world which must have and keeping up with the fashion and many parents struggle so hard and go into debt to satisfy there children's wants our writer gives the answer be content with what you have and remember the Lord is always with you through thick and thin.
V 6  Yes let us say with the writer of this letter The Lord is my helper he will never leave us and what can man do to us with such a wonderful helper.
 being a Christian will never be an easy road to travel people will put you down and call you names ridicule you some will be abusive and violent but keep the faith knowing who we have believed and rely on his promises he has said I will never leave you.

Love and Peace
Dave       

v4 In the first century church, some people despised marriage as an 'inferior' calling; today it is dismissed by many as an optional extra, and marriage breakdown is rampant (even within the church).
So Christian sexual ethics are profoundly counter-cultural! Marriage is to be honoured and valued. No sex outside marriage, and strict monogamy within it, should be the norm; divorce should be very much the exception. Sexual sins should be taken very seriously: they are habit-forming, they harm ourselves and hurt other people, and they offend God. Even within marriage, the precious gift of sex can be abused; and He will judge us for all such offences against our partners.
v5 Money - like sex - is a god of this world that promises much but guarantees nothing. God's promises, on the other hand, are utterly reliable! It is only when we doubt God's ability or willingness to care for us that we are tempted to make money the be-all and end-all of our lives.
v6 Ultimately this boils down to an issue of trust: if we really believe in God's constancy and faithfulness, we won't need to stockpile material resources.
Those who know God's presence and power in their lives are free from the tyranny of fear (Philippians 4:11-13).
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)

Offline davetaff

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #182 on: September 11, 2018, 11:52:28 AM »
Hi Deborah
Another good post thank you.



 7  Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. note

 8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

 9  Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein       


V 7 I think the writer here is referring to those who had preached God's word to them possibly apostles they are a good example to us all they kept the faith through all trials and tribulations and even today they are a good example to follow by the word of God they have left us.

V 8 here we are reminded of our prime example to follow our Lord Jesus Christ he does not change he remains the same from the beginning to the end.

V 9 This is very hard to do in this day and age with so many different denominations and sects all saying there way is the right way hard to know who to believe.
So I say to back to what our Lord and his apostles taught us we know these things are true.
I don't think the meat referee to here is about what we eat unless the writer is referring to those who were still observing the temple sacrifices.
Maybe he is referring to the doctoring we accept that are unbiblical.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: Letter to the Hebrews
« Reply #183 on: September 11, 2018, 03:14:58 PM »

V 7 I think the writer here is referring to those who had preached God's word to them possibly apostles they are a good example to us all they kept the faith through all trials and tribulations and even today they are a good example to follow by the word of God they have left us.

V 8 here we are reminded of our prime example to follow our Lord Jesus Christ he does not change he remains the same from the beginning to the end.

V 9 This is very hard to do in this day and age with so many different denominations and sects all saying there way is the right way hard to know who to believe.
So I say to back to what our Lord and his apostles taught us we know these things are true.
I don't think the meat referee to here is about what we eat unless the writer is referring to those who were still observing the temple sacrifices.
Maybe he is referring to the doctoring we accept that are unbiblical.

Love and Peace
Dave

v7 We all need role models, and so Christians should look not only to the Old Testament saints (remember ch 11), but also to church history - to Christian leaders and martyrs, and those who led us to faith. They have proved God's dependability. We should look at the whole course of their lives, not just the things for which they became famous. Did they hold fast to the end? Did they finish well?
We are not necessarily to imitate their behaviour (it may not be culturally appropriate!), but their faith.
v8 God has not changed; nor has His Son. In a rapidly changing world, He is the one eternal Reality.
Jesus will be the same to us as He was to believers in past generations - faithful and all-sufficient! He will always be with us, and will never let us down.
v9 Since Christ does not change, neither does Christianity; it should be the same today as when this letter was written. We should therefore be wary of anything that differs.
Many religions (including Judaism) have rules and restrictions concerning food - but none of them are of any actual spiritual value. We can safely ignore them!

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so many different denominations and sects all saying there way is the right way hard to know who to believe
This is a mantra repeated by an awful lot of people on the Internet, but I've never found it to be true in 45 years of being a Christian. It's only a handful of cults (like the JWs) who insist that they alone have the 'right' way. Ordinary Christians like me change denomination quite easily (I've gone through Baptist, Pentecostal, New Frontiers, Anglican and back to Baptist again) - some things differ, but the basic core is the same.
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." (II Corinthians 12:9)