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Re: Matthew 15:24
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2017, 03:33:25 PM »
The woman is acknowledging Jesus as her master, not Israel. ie. The master (Jesus) is feeding his children (the Israelites), and its His table that she eats crumbs under.
@francis drake

Hello again,

With respect, this is your interpretation of it, and not true to the context of what is actually written.

When our Lord referred to, 'dogs', he was referring to the puppies (pets) which would eat of the scraps that would fall from the family table.  The Canaanite woman picked up on this, and speaks in terms of 'master', identifying with the puppies that our Lord was referring to.  The table being occupied with 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel' whom our Lord came to minister to.

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Re: Matthew 15:24
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2017, 03:52:05 PM »
Hi
Jest wondering who are the lost sheep is it the ten tribes that broke away from the two tribes of Juda and Benjamin was it Christ mission to unite all the tribes of Israel under one king.

Thank you, Dave, I have found it interesting, thinking through what you said in your post.

* I don't believe that any of the tribes are lost; for God knows just where they are; but the southern and northern kingdoms are certainly spoken of as being united again (can't think of the reference at the moment)

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I think Cariad is right Christ came to unite all the tribes of Israel as is seen by his commands to his apostles
and as St Paul tells us he went first to the Jews if they did not listen he then went to the gentiles.

Even Peter needed to be told to go to the gentiles in a vision

Act 11:5  I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me.

Act 11:6  Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Act 11:7  And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
Act 11:8  But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
Act 11:9  But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Act 11:10  And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
Act 11:11  And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.
Act 11:12  And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:


This happened three times and peter understood it to mean he was to go to the gentiles because the they had been cleansed by the blood of the lamb of God.

Question is why were the gentiles depicted as animals and wild beasts a question for another thread maybe.

* Though it is nice to think that you feel we are in agreement, Dave, I don't really understand in what way.  Are you perhaps thinking that 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel' refers to the northern kingdom? The ten tribes?  I don't believe that in God's eyes they are 'lost' actually: and had not thought of that as a possible interpretation of the words, 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel', I consider it to refer to the nation as a whole.

* Regarding the animals depicted in the vision God gave to Peter, prior to his visit to Cornelius: I don't believe they have any meaning other than that they were 'unclean' (according to the law), just as the gentile (Cornelius) would have been considered 'unclean' by Peter, as a Jew.

'And the voice spake unto him again the second time,
What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.'

(Act 10:15)

* Cornelius (a gentile) was going to be brought into the kingdom, through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; and many would follow, to become part of Israel and the Olive tree; during the approx, 40 year period covered by the book of Acts, in the hope that Israel would emulate them.  They would be cleansed by the blood of the Lamb, therefore not to be considered as 'common' or 'unclean' by Peter, or the rest of the twelve (Acts 11:1-3), for whom being in the company of an uncircumcised gentile, and eating with him, would have been unthinkable.

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