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Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« on: October 08, 2017, 03:00:09 AM »
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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 03:30:53 PM »
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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2017, 04:20:07 AM »
I canot help but ask "Should I see God like my earthly father"

I have searched this from the lowest to the highest part of my being and I see a fault in this "likening natural father to heavenly father - as it does not relate in the world and to those brought up in fragmented relationships.

As God is not like and was never likened to our earthly father.

As God is far below to the deepest oceans and far above the greatest King and reaches into the universe and beyond our imagination.

Psalm 148 is not a call to Praise - but simply declaring a Praise already known of.


It is a Praise that is already known of in the heavens "as the Angels Praise God and the lower heavens Praise God and this Psalm is the great and grand Finale.

As all creation Praises the Lord and always has


Whether we belong to the  deepest sea's to the highest of heights and if  we ascend from the first, second and third heaven, all Praise God.

Not only that but I have to ask "are all things made by mankind giving Glory to God ?" well no but some thijngs made by mankind are already !

In this cyber world even the simple PC or pad - tablet or Iphone - are giving Glory to God [depending on who is using the application or inanimate object]

Therefore in this first heaven we are Praising God [giving witness too - because of who we are or because of how we exist within  the  air that we breathe.


In certain cases  the father of the home who was never seen and never known.

So how do we know the Father God through a relationship and through fact and actual experience ....

We can know God /Him/Father/ through the Father breaking through the wall and showing us His Character and the Character of God is known of through the bible/Holy Spirit.

In this Psalm of 148 - we see the author [who is God] and the author writing the Psalm as King David [at the time of the exle -[from babylon] and at this point I see a wall being built]

I see the wall between King Davids dad and God - King David was chosen by God and He saw God as far more than his earthly father Jesse.

This wall was never a wall between Jesse and David but a wall between King David and God the Father.

It was created by sin and King Davids heart = this wall was never a wall between father and son [earthly]

Yet in a strange way they both gave glory to God by simply being who they were. [being used by God whether born of God or not]

King David never saw God as he did his natural father [indeed God chose David from all the son's of Jesse]

In the same way we often sing about the three wise men or the King of bethlehem - written about in the inspired word of scripture - but we see this King a dad and he was herod agrippa the 1st, eaten by worms.

King Agrippa was used for the  Glory of God and in the same way the first heaven - the things that are created by us -give Glory to God - even those things that were never in the original creation give Glory to God - being reformed and recreated and depending on who uses them and why.

Even the mad prophet "Balaam" gave Glory to God in the third oracle - Numbers 24:2

We may well shout "Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD." Which is taken from Psalm 150 -  "but even those things that do not have breath continue to Praise thw Lord" [or can be used too]

I am coming from the lowest to the highest or from the first heaven to the third - I am speaking from life and from the heavenlies and this is the living word of God - speaking from the natural creation and the heavenly creation / the Spirit and the mouth and the written word or from created things of mankind.


The Father heart of God lived during the times of Sodom and Gomorrah - and through the times of Nineveh - where fathers were not "after God's own heart"

Rise up above your present experience .from the lowest place to the highest place


this is Psalm 148....................... the simplest atomic particle giving witness and glory to God - Praising God .

There is an elevation here between the Praises of natural things and heavenly beings or between an atom and the Praise of a person and between the praise of an earthly dad and  a heavenly Father.

This Psalm rises up, from natural being to heavenly Praise - or from earth to heaven.

All Praise God/give Glory /knowingly or unknowingly/ consciously or simply by being/existing/

Yet the third heaven existed long before we ever lived and long befoee King David lived and continues to Praise God and give Glory to Him.

This is a rising up - of levels or steps, between lives and ages/created beings and non created/heavenly and angelic/nature and the simplist of recreated things.





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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 02:12:33 AM »
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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2017, 01:41:28 AM »
I want to focus on  King David in his cave experience fleeing from the rebellion of Absalom [his son] exiled from his family and everything he knew - King David fled through the Kidron Valley  during this exile.

King David and his armies now ascend the mount of olives and wept as they went - they were like the "bruised olives on the mount at this point.

And once the  skin of the fruit is broken, the aroma goes forth. [part of the message at Chch today] "must be coincidence"

Did  you know the Kidron Valley is also known as "Valley of Jehoshaphat ?"  you might call this "the valley of descision..

Lets take a look at this valley.... and you might look at the prophetic word about things to come-  in   Joel 3:1-2 . and for the past [and future spiritual  activity look at Jeremiah 31:40

It is when all things come at you at once or as if all enemies come up against you so that you are forced to make a descision and flee .

You see - it is a Synonym and I want you to remember "from all places at once" in your spiritiual warfare [now today]

As when all neighbours /peoples came  up against King Jehoshaphat - he reacted and went to war, as in 2 Chronicles 20:1 and whom shall stand against this great enemy ? see : 2 Chronicles 20:9

Do you know what the armies of Jehoshaphat did ?

They sang  - Praise the Lord,  For His mercy endures forever.  they sang the Psalms....

Do you know the journey of Jesus on His way to the Cross ?- look at Mark 14:26-31 and through this valley  [of descision/ Valley of Jehoshaphat / the kidron valley, Jesus  went to the mount of Olives....

So now we go on in this biblcal study - and remind oursleves of Psalm 148 - to Praise God/submit/give Glory/ as we see Jesus descend into our own lives now "from the highest of heights to the depths of the sea/cave/exile/depression/.


Here we have the interchanging worlds - of the first, the second and third heaven. [outside of time - but in our time]


Yes God knows you - Guest  - by name as the stars in the heavens [second heaven] - yet there is also One who has passed through these levels/steps.[third heaven]

But remember that all things may come up against you as with The exiled throughout scrpture, as with King Jehoshaphat and  King David - as their is one "who is the prince  of the air". [first heaven]

Remember - Jesus passed through all these . levels - [the fifteen steps of ascension]


So let us remind ourselves as we ascend these steps [as Jehoshaphat did and many others] , as King David did and as Jesus did]

Let us not forget that "we may be called to climb" - see : 1 Peter 4:12 Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you.

Don't be fooled into believing  - that  "because Jesus suffered and was bruised " - that you somehow have a free ticket,to avoid such things.

 Remember that "these things can come from all places at once " - some to test - some to tempt - some to prove, - some to persecute - some to refine, some to bring you down, some to raise you up, some to level you.


There is a time for every purpose - under heaven the third heaven[ or under God. or as in Ecclesiastes 3:1
whoever we give power to or make "Lord"

A time for every level of the "heavens" to come against us - a time to gather and so on.

Although we may be seated in the third heaven with Christ - we continue to live in the first heaven.

Never leave yourself unguarded - and stay alert - etc.



Okay put it this way - how did you come to God ? did you come to God because He had blessed you so much that you just had to get to know Him ? through riches and blessings maybe !

Or maybe you came to God through  desparation, illness,  poverty, etc...

It was through the valley of descision, the valley of Kidron, the valley of Jehoshaphat.....  that you came to faith in God ...

Now rise up to the mount of Olives.




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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2017, 03:11:48 AM »
So I have gone from the the lowest to the highest - but actually this [Psalm goes from the Highest of heights to to lowest of the heavens.

It begins with heaven itself,  the third heaven where Angels have given Praise in eternity - throughout time or since they were created for the purpose of being messengers - "Giving Praise and worship to God [before the Church began] - as we know it. [apart from those who rebelled in an eternal state never coming back ]


The third heaven, being a place where God is - where all things give Glory to God, a constant loud and busy place [speaking in our /all/ language/ or none as no language is needed] with continuous activity - where work never ceases and tiredness is not known of.

An eternal hive of being and Praises to God in the Spiritual / which is natural in heaven.

The third heaven being a place where angelic beings and elders and masses - Praise God continuously/all day/throughout an eternal state.

Quite why this command is given from the earthly perspective can only be because God/ Jesus/ came down to raise up - as from heaven to earth He came as a helples babe, to make us babes in Christ...

But also


We can Praiee the Lord from the heavens, as we read Ephesians 2:6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,

Now, look at Psalm 148:5 Let them praise the name of the Lord, For He commanded and they were created.


Of the third heaven - being created with a beginning [as were the Angels]

The command to Praise here - was never a heavenly state [for why would heaven be commanded to do somethinng it does - but rather a command now to be raised up in heavenly places with Christ.

As the stars and the universe witness to God  - being created and named today -as more stars are born and created all the time.

In other words new Christians/stars/  are born every day,


Of course, new stars need to be commanded [given authority] to be - what they were created for.

Meanwhile heaven Praises God as it always has..


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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 02:16:24 AM »

THE SECOND  HEAVEN



 - NIV Praise him you stars and you shining stars - or " KJV Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light."

Well the stars only shine  their light onto the planets and the dots in the sky are stars and planets. [as the planets reflect the light of the stars]

Our own solar system is only seen from other planets because it reflects the light from our sun.

As the moon is only visible because it reflects the suns light. [in the same way we may only be visible as we reflect the light of the Son]

This is the other Light source - that is not visible - but can be seen - even smelt and sensed,

As the stars /planets/ galaxies/ have always given glory to God by being, so the lights in the sky give Praise to God - by simply being what they were created to do.

Either emitting their own light source or reflecting light - but  their is another light that enters the soul/spirit/body/ that proclaims the "third heaven" and the creator.

As we can be "the stars that reflect the Light of this world" and can be/are/  named by God.


As the stary sky seems limitless and incomprehensible - so too - the thrid heaven is even more so.

Yet it shines it's  Light upon the earth through the stars that live on earth.





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Re: Psalm 148, The full ascent.
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2017, 02:57:53 AM »

The first heaven being [from the depths - sea creatures [tended upon by God]

The first heaven also includes the air, Mountains and hills, Tree's, all things we are familiar with.


They should Praise God "In the first heaven"  [even though they may not comprehend this commandment or may be as ones not believing] as they exist and give glory to God because they "are".  Romans 8:22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

In Isaiah 55:12 the metaorical language takes it further [as the hebrew nation" now Israel - is released from Exile [as David now is synonmon] "as the tree's of the fields now clap their hands" in fact the mountains and the hills shall break forth with joy... Psalm 98:8 .

As if the whole of creation bears witness and breaks forth [being restrained and in bondage "as if exiled" as if  the entire creation of God is delivered and released - to be as it once was meant to be.

It is almost as if "the third heaven changes [heaven changing all the time John 14:3 ] as God the Father gets ready a place and is constantly changing it.

The second heaven is altered to "where God is now our Light"  and the whole universe and it's being is altered and changed - Isaiah 60:19 .

All levels now change - to alter the the next - as God changes and recreates the levels... the first, second and third heavens will be altered forever - yet heaven is being changed all the time as God prepares the next step .


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Thankyou Lord that You came down into darkness to bring Light .

That You ascended through the levels and through the heavens to leave gifts to Your people  - as in Ephesians 4:8.

Thankyou Lord that the exiled can Praise You.

Although what we know is in constant motion and change - we can depned on Your Character.[that never changes]

Amen.


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