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Re: The Passover
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2017, 07:36:29 PM »
Hi C22
Welcome back you have bean missed the short answer to yours and Kenneth's doubts about Gods word is LOVE.

Thats why God allowed evil into the world and why we have freewill to truly love someone you must do it of your own freewill from the heart and you must have at least two choices to choose from.

God showed his love for us when he sent his son Jesus Christ to pay the price for the sins we commit.

All God wants is to love him and love one another with all heart then we will live in Paradise with the lord.

Love and peace
Dave

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Re: The Passover
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2017, 08:32:56 PM »
Thanks. I hope that the group will let me ask a few more questions tomorrow.

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Re: The Passover
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2017, 09:36:01 PM »
Hiya. I was in two Minds to answer this and to be honest am nervous but have posted anyway.

I remember watching a sci fi film. Can't remember exactly what it was but think it was an old Dr Who film, about another world, in another time.
Basically, the people of the other world were known as peaceful, without anything contrary to that at all.
Someone argued to a man that they would be aggressive if necessary, and he said " no" he would always be peaceful.
So the person disagreeing with him pretended to be interested in his wife, in testing his reaction. Of course, it was contrary to the peace he always advocated.
Yet showed him it isn't always possible to maintain his peaceful behavior, when others begun to behave  a certain way.
That is a similiar analogy  with the situation of this world and with God.
That God made creation and it was good, with nothing contrary to that.
Until people turned God away, and chose less than good.
What kind of person would God be if He turned a blind eye and didn't care.
I think knowing God means you know He hates injustice and unkindness. His anger is because of His kindness, and preserving and protecting the future.
Only in  reading certain parts of the bible, He seems different to that and appear to be so cruel. Yet in other places He appears to be so kind.
Yet He is still the same God.
Years and years ago I read parts of the bible and thought I can't stand this and this is not the real God. I wasn't interested if that's what He is like.
Yet I saw Him and His loveliness in creation, and disconnected Him from the God of the bible.
Then I became born again and the lovely parts of the bible made sense to me. I saw the other parts but didn't think about them.
I came to know how lovely God is and so kind and so wonderful. That has just grown.
Only I started to read those terrible parts of the bible and prayed because I couldn't make sense of them, being from a God of love.
Only I wanted to see where He was coming from.
Gradually there are things making sense and I know He is most certainly a God of love and kindness. Its connected in a way to the analogy I illustrated, regarding the sci fi film. On that sort of principal.
I did explain certain things on this forum, but you need God to reveal it personally to you.
Asking the questions and giving your opinions may help you with your enquiry.

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Re: The Passover
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2017, 11:36:04 PM »
Thanks. I hope that the group will let me ask a few more questions tomorrow.

Quite happy to answer questions ....though would be better to to have your take on it as well .

if you post more questions - make sure they have their own new topic by using https://www.1faith.co.uk/?action=post;board=84.0




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Re: The Passover
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2017, 10:34:53 AM »
Thanks. I hope that the group will let me ask a few more questions tomorrow.

Hi Kenneth
Ask away but it would be nice to have your views on our answers to your questions.
The question that needs answering is why did God allow evil to enter his perfect world.

There has to be a good reason for it I think the answer lies in the beginning of the book of Job and Satan's accusations have a read and let us know what you think.

Love and peace
Dave

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Re: The Passover
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2017, 10:48:42 AM »
Hi Rose Anna
No near to be nervous it was a good post I enjoyed reading it I think we are both saying the same thing basically God is Love.

The whole bible is about Gods Love for his creation true love comes at great cost and God has paid the price.

Love and Peace
Dave
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Offline Kenneth Watwood

Re: The Passover
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2017, 09:42:57 AM »
I am not getting much in the way of discussion about my posts and so I will post my biggest difficulty with the Bible.
I know that nearly all Christians believe that our sins are forgiven because of the Crucifixion,but I don't.
If the one true God had said the wages of sin is death, it would have been an absurd statement because God in His infinite wisdom would have known that having given us free will, that we would all be sinners, and that He would have to kill all of us,bodily or spiritually (or both.)
We now have a situation where almighty God has painted himself into a corner and has to come up with the plan to have part of the Godhead (Jesus). come to earth in human form.Then Jesus like the scapegoat would have all the sins of the world past,present and future heaped upon his head and then by allowing Jesus to be cruelly murdered, the wrath of God would be satisfied.
God is almighty and if He says that your sins are forgiven,that is an end of the matter.
God never sins and therefore could not have been involved in the killing of our Lord Jesus.
I do believe that the murder of Jesus was the worst crime ever committed but it has nothing to do with the forgiveness of sin.
This has caused me many sleepless nights over the years but I have never found any reason to change this belief.
Soon I will explain my reasons for all of my recent comments.God bless.Love ,Kenneth.

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Re: The Passover
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2017, 10:01:44 AM »
Quote: God in His infinite wisdom would have known that having given us free will, that we would all be sinners
God gave us free will so that we can choose to follow Him, to accept the free gift that He offers each one of us, He desires a people to Love Him for who He is, He does not and never has wanted a group of puppets where He pulls the strings.
True Love is not a thing to be forced upon anyone.