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Offline francis drake

Re: Does God really forgive and forget or am I still accountable..
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2017, 09:08:09 AM »

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According to my Hebrew Bible, the word is nashah - which according to my Hebrew dictionary means 'forget'.

When I click your link it doesn't show anything like that.
Also using www.biblehub.com that word doesn't appear in the Hebrew for Job11v6, in fact there is nothing even close to it?
Are we talking about the same verse?
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Does God really forgive and forget or am I still accountable..
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2017, 10:00:56 AM »
When I click your link it doesn't show anything like that.
I didn't give you a link...  It's an automatic pop-up, and it isn't the translation I'm using.
I use a printed Hebrew Bible and dictionary, as I find the online ones often contain errors. And most of them are based on the KJV, which I find very irritating.

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Also using www.biblehub.com that word doesn't appear in the Hebrew for Job11v6, in fact there is nothing even close to it?
Are we talking about the same verse?

I've looked up the verse in bible hub and it gives the meaning as 'exact' (which I find bizarre, as it is usually translated 'forget' in modern versions) - but if you click on the Strongs number (5382) and go to the dictionary entry, the meaning is given as 'forget', as in my dictionary, and 'exact' isn't even mentioned.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5382.htm

So 'exact' may be a KJV quirk.


Here is the NIV of Job 11:6
"... and disclose to you the secrets of wisdom,
for true wisdom has two sides.
Know this: God has even forgotten some of your sin."


Since I have never used the KJV, I wasn't aware that in this verse it is significantly different.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5382.htm
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Re: Does God really forgive and forget or am I still accountable..
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2017, 01:05:36 PM »
A very useful online resource for understanding Bible translation is the NET Bible.

The footnotes explain variant manuscript readings and possible alternative translations.

https://bible.org/netbible/

If you go to Job 11:6 and read the footnote you will see why there are different ways of translating that verse.
https://bible.org/netbible/
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Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Does God really forgive and forget or am I still accountable..
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2018, 03:32:22 AM »
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For God to forget anything would make him of lower mental ability than the average man. If I can remember many of my sins, how can God's mind be blank?

In contrast to "forgetfulness", for God "not to remember", simply means he will not bring that accusation against us.



mmm - consider the person who did you the most harm.. being forgiven...


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