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Offline John

Humanism for Kid.
« on: January 24, 2017, 04:02:50 PM »

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Darwin the dog has problems !
It is an article aimmed at children to indoctrinate them into humanism, it shows how hostile they are to religion and how poor they are at reasoning.
read more at :-
http://www.youthapologeticsnetwork.com/2017/01/darwin-the-dog-has-problems/
http://www.youthapologeticsnetwork.com/2017/01/darwin-the-dog-has-problems/



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confused22

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Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 08:34:02 AM »
Hi John,

I read this, and thought it was pretty good, for young kids, the controversial bits are kinda skipped over, and it's a lot less scary than the bible.  I get what you're saying, but most kids wouldn't pick up on the significance of what's not said, or even the Darwin reference.
I think though your comments regarding humanists having no grounding for right and wrong, is wrong, there are blatant examples of right a wrong in the real world every day.  Surely we all have a moral compass regardless of the presence of God, Gods or otherwise?  I get that if you look into it further it's not saying what a Christian would want it to say, and this is a Christian forum, but as a non believer, living in a Christian home, this book poses less threat than the bible, by this i mean, any question raised by a child about this book, would be answered so easily, compared to some of the questions that could be raised from the bible.

Just thought you might like an opinion from the other side - metaphorically speaking lol
C


Cariad

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Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 09:25:04 AM »
Hi John,

I read this, and thought it was pretty good, for young kids, the controversial bits are kinda skipped over, and it's a lot less scary than the bible.  I get what you're saying, but most kids wouldn't pick up on the significance of what's not said, or even the Darwin reference.
I think though your comments regarding humanists having no grounding for right and wrong, is wrong, there are blatant examples of right a wrong in the real world every day.  Surely we all have a moral compass regardless of the presence of God, Gods or otherwise?  I get that if you look into it further it's not saying what a Christian would want it to say, and this is a Christian forum, but as a non believer, living in a Christian home, this book poses less threat than the bible, by this i mean, any question raised by a child about this book, would be answered so easily, compared to some of the questions that could be raised from the bible.

Just thought you might like an opinion from the other side - metaphorically speaking lol
C
'And if any man hear my words, and believe not,
I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world,
but to save the world.
He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my words,
hath one that judgeth him:
the word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him in the last day.'

(John 12:47,48)

Hi @confused22,

I have not read the book, so cannot comment on that, but I just want to agree with you regarding man having 'a moral compass', for we are all guided by the law of conscience, and it is by this that mankind, without Christ, who were never under the Law of Moses, will ultimately be judged, when Christ, as Judge (Acts 10:42; Acts 17:31), will judge the secrets of men's hearts (Romans 2:16).

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Cariad

confused22

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Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 10:54:46 AM »
Thanks Cariad

That's truly interesting, i've not looked at this, nor come across it on my travels.  I appreciate your input, i always feel a bit unworthy commenting, but just as i welcome a Christian viewpoint, hopefully a non christian viewpoint can be useful too.

C
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Offline John

Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 02:40:40 PM »
Confused22,
                     Quote "Darwin ? only believes in things that he can see in the real world.  Things like friendship, and being nice, and learning"

Can you show me an example of friendship, or what 'nice' is or 'learning',  this shows just how aweful the reasoning is in the book.
Here's a quote I like " Darwin also loves to enjoy stories from a long, long time ago.  Darwin also knows that these are just stories, though, and that they aren?t real.?'
It is talking about evolution a story of what happen a long, long time ago and was only recently written down.  It's another example of how fuzzy the reasoning is in this book.

Do remember the bible is an adualt book so yes there are scary parts, but strangly children often find the bible stories less scary then we think as they follow a patten they recognise.

A man does bad things, a good man opposes him, the bad man is defeated.

The other point to note is that the bible is real history.

confused22

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Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 06:07:12 PM »
Hi John,

I just thought it was basically ok, not chastising any faiths etc, not too controversial.  Fuzzy reasoning?  I find nothing more fuzzy than Christianity, and your confidence in the Bible, is not shared by myself.  The bible, and a lot of the references therein can be terrifying for kids, no way the same can be said for this humanist publication.

I don't understand why you would even look at this, its humanist, it's not going to say very much that you agree with. 

C
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Offline John

Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 07:21:53 PM »
Well it's for Children so it is not going to openly say, ' Lets learn how to laugh at religion while not recognising our own inconsistencies.' is it.

I'll repeat the glaring inconsistency.
'Darwin, the character of the book,  belives in what he can see. A list of invisible things are then given.

Christianity is based on historical facts, on people who really lived, it is not a case of have blind faith, but of having reasonable trust in what has happened.

confused22

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Re: Humanism for Kid.
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 11:41:58 PM »
I'll repeat the glaring inconsistency.
'Darwin, the character of the book,  belives in what he can see. A list of invisible things are then given.

There really is a parallel with Christianity though, the Bible too , has inconsistencies, and there are aspects of blind faith.

C
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