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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 02:52:18 PM »
Hi
This next section is a bit difficult to talk about in detail without offending some so I'l let it speak for it's self.

 Rom 1:24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I will say these things reminds us of the time just before the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah I think it shows gods patience waiting untill the very last minute before intervening.
I think the above text is a good description of the world today so hopefully it shows the end is not far off.

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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2017, 02:49:08 PM »
Hi
Moving on to the next section.

Rom 2:1  Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Rom 2:2  But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
Rom 2:3  And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

Hear we come into judgement and it seams the the best option is not to judge but leave it to God for we all fall short when it comes to keeping Gods law or as St James puts it.

Jas 2:10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

So it dose not matter what law we break we are classed as sinners and are guilty of all the law but if we comply with the laws of Love as taught by our Lord we will not judge our fellow man for we are all law breakers the only difference is we have forgiveness through the blood of Christ.
But jest because we are for given dose not mean we can go on sinning.

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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2017, 02:54:13 PM »
Hi
Some time since we visited this thread so lets look at the next few verses

 
Rom 2:4  Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
Rom 2:5  But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6  Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

Do we despise the goodness of God when we judge others dose it show our hard hardheartedness towards our fellow man dose it break the law which says you shall love you neighbour.
Lets leave judgement to our Lord his judgement will be perfect and fair.

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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 09:38:08 AM »
Hi Dave (@davetaff)

You have walked on my friend, and are now viewing the landscape ahead of me, for I stopped a while. I will look in again later and we  can talk about the landmarks you have already seen along the way, before moving on.

In Christ Jesus
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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2017, 10:55:53 AM »
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ,
called to be an apostle,
separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which He had promised afore by His prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And declared to be the Son of God with power,
according to the spirit of holiness,
by the resurrection from the dead:
By whom we have received grace and apostleship,
for obedience to the faith among all nations, for His name:
... '

(Rom 1:1-5) 

Hello there,

Forgive me for recapping, but Romans 1:5, (highlighted), is demanding my attention this morning.

* Looking in a reference book I have on figures of speech in Scripture, in relation to this verse, I find that there are three figures of speech operating within these few words alone!! 

* The first one I look up solves one thing relating to this verse which puzzled me,  for I had wondered about the use of the word, 'we' in this verse,'By whom we have received grace and apostleship, ... ': for I wondered to whom it applied. It could not have been those to whom Paul wrote, for although all had received 'grace', they had not all received 'apostleship'.  Here I am reliably informed that the plural 'we' has been put for the singular, and refers to Paul Himself (ie., 'I Paul'). - Thank you, Lord!

* The second one I look up relates to the words, 'grace and apostleship', and I learn that though two words are used, one thing is actually meant, (ie., 'grace, yes - and apostolic grace too'), the grace Paul had received was 'apostolic grace' which enabled him to fulfill the role to which he had been called (see Rom. 1:1). 

* The third one refers to the words which have so occupied my mind this morning, 'The obedience of faith': I will quote what the writer says concerning it:-
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" Here, the words correspond with the same expression in Rom.16:26. 
In the former (Rom. 1:5), [in connection with the Gospel which was promised from of old], we have apostolic grace committed to the apostle of the Gentiles with a view to (procuring) obedience produced by faith among all the Gentiles.
It is possible that the words, 'faith' in these two places may denote 'faith-obedience': ie., obedience on faith-principle as distinct from law-principle."

* I find that fascinating and thought provoking, I hope you do too.

* This, 'apostolic grace', Paul had received by the ascended Christ, to procure 'faith-obedience', 'among the nations' - 'for His Name.'.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Cariad

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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 11:47:10 AM »
'Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ,
called to be an apostle,
separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which He had promised afore by His prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And declared to be the Son of God with power,
according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
By whom we have received grace and apostleship,
for obedience to the faith among all nations, for His name:
Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:'

(Rom 1:1-6)

Hello again,

* Now we have reference to those to whom Paul was addressing his epistle, 'Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: ... '   As you have said in a previous entry, Dave, we also, along with them, are, 'the called of Jesus Christ' - Praise God!

* The following verse (v.7), tells us what they and we have been called to be:-

'To all that be in Rome,
beloved of God,
called to be saints:
Grace to you and peace
from God our Father,
and the Lord Jesus Christ.'

(Rom 1:7) 

* How wonderful it is to know that we, with them, are, 'Beloved of God': 'the called of Jesus Christ.'. 

* The words, 'called to be saints', is not referring to an attainment that we have to reach, but rather a, 'state', that we have come into, 'In Christ'. We are set apart unto God. Although, there is a practical outworking of this that should be seen in our walk and witness.  For we are to seek to walk worthy of the calling unto which we have been called, aren't we?

'Grace to you
and peace from God our Father,
and the Lord Jesus Christ.'


Amen!

In Christ Jesus
Cariad








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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 12:17:02 PM »
Hello again,

'First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all,
that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.'

( Rom 1:8 ) 

* Yes, with the reach of the Roman empire, the gospel was taken to the far reaches of it, to the glory of God, in Christ.

Praise God!

'For God is my witness,
Whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of His Son,
that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;'

(Rom 1:9) 

* There is no occasion given to the flesh to glory here is there? No! For it is with his 'spirit' that Paul serves, 'in the gospel of His Son.'

Praise God!

'... without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;
Making request, if by any means now at length
I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you.
For I long to see you,
that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift,
to the end ye may be established;
That is, that I may be comforted together with you
by the mutual faith both of you and me.'

(Rom 1:9b,10-12) 

* How gracious this is, how humble Paul's approach, he sought to see them not only that they may be established by the endowment of 'some spiritual gift', but that he and they may be, 'comforted', in the sharing of the mutual faith they held.

'Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren,
that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you,
(but was let hitherto,)

that I might have some fruit among you also,
even as among other Gentiles.
I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians;
both to the wise, and to the unwise.
So, as much as in me is,
I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.'

(Rom 1:13)

* Does this not emphasize the total reliance upon God, and upon His will, Paul has, in regard to what He does, and where he goes.  Like His Saviour, and in the words of the Kingdom prayer,  it is, 'Thy will be done'!

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Cariad

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Re: A walk through Paul's epistle to the Romans
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2017, 12:33:39 PM »
Hi there,

'For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:
for it is the power of God unto salvation
to every one that believeth;
to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.'

(Rom 1:16) 

* The opening words of this verse are intended to draw the eye and make us consider, and they do, don't they? 'For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ'. I have always thought it rather strange, and it is intended to be, in order to attract our attention. 

* There is a figure of speech here, which by the use of a negative emphasizes the positive to a very high degree.  In this case, Paul is actually saying, 'I count it my highest honour and glory to proclaim it, and to suffer for it, while I have full confidence in its power to accomplish all God's purposes of grace'.(quote)

Praise God!

* However, it is good to note the prior position that is given to the Jew here, in the words, 'to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.'  Israel has not yet been laid aside (temporarily) in unbelief, they still hold their privileged position.  Romans was written towards the end of the period covered by, 'The Acts of The Apostles', and it was not until Acts:28:28 that the curse of Isaiah 6 fell upon Israel:-

'And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed,
after that Paul had spoken one word,
'Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,Saying,
"Go unto this people, and say, 'Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand;
and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:'
For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing,
and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears,
and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.'

Be it known therefore unto you,
that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles,
and that they will hear it
.'

(Act 28:25-28) 

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Cariad