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huw.thomas

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Re: The Law
« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2017, 09:08:57 PM »
Hi Truster
Thank you for your reply made me think always a good thing thanks.
Maybe restrained is the wrong word of course the God of creation can't be restrained but being he is the God of Love is not Love the greatest power in the universe God is Love.

Interesting you bring up Job a difficult book to understand it is satan that brings all the evil on Job not God but God permits it to Happen so God takes responsibility for it because he could prevent it if he wished to do so.
If we expand this and see Job as representing mankind God has allowed the devil free reign the only reason I can think of is so that we can exercise our free will which is essential if we are to love God as he wants us to love him from the heart of our own freewill.

So being that God takes responsibility for the evil in the world he also pays the price by sending his son into the world to die on the cross for the forgiveness of sins.

Love comes at a very great price it cost God his Son and Mankind great suffering.

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Man attempts to restrict the Eternal Almighty in two ways. Man prevents Him from exercising justice and judgement, because He is love. Man also insists that man has free will and that free will takes precedence over the eternal decree.

Giving glory for providence to Satan is yet another abomination that enters the mind of man.

To summarize is simple. Either the Eternal Almighty is Sovereign over all and fulfills His will and good pleasure in all. Or He is a part-time Creator and sustainer and spends time as a spectator wondering what Satan will do next.

AW PINK wrote;The foundation of all true knowledge of Elohim must be a clear mental apprehension of His perfections as revealed in Holy Scripture. An unknown Almighty can neither be trusted, served, nor worshipped.

Agape, DAVE. 

PS I find His Sovereignty far more comforting than His love.

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Re: The Law
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2017, 02:51:09 PM »
Man attempts to restrict the Eternal Almighty in two ways. Man prevents Him from exercising justice and judgement, because He is love. Man also insists that man has free will and that free will takes precedence over the eternal decree.

Giving glory for providence to Satan is yet another abomination that enters the mind of man.

To summarize is simple. Either the Eternal Almighty is Sovereign over all and fulfills His will and good pleasure in all. Or He is a part-time Creator and sustainer and spends time as a spectator wondering what Satan will do next.

AW PINK wrote;The foundation of all true knowledge of Elohim must be a clear mental apprehension of His perfections as revealed in Holy Scripture. An unknown Almighty can neither be trusted, served, nor worshipped.

Agape, DAVE. 

PS I find His Sovereignty far more comforting than His love.

Hi Truster
Thank you for your reply yes God is sovereign over everything on that we can agree God has been active in creation from the beginning he has never bean jest a spectator and he know's exactly what satan is up to and will do.
The question is how will God overcome evil  shall he do it with more evil or whit Love I believe with Love as St Paul tells us.

1Co 12:31  But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

The more excellent way is Love if you destroy evil with evil you only create more evil but Love can and will put an end to evil what is his weapon of choice

Rev 2:16  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Rev 19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14  And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15  And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

The sharp sword is the word of God and he who sits on the white horse is the word of God and this is what will destroy evil.

Love and Peace
Dave
   

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Re: The Law
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2017, 04:16:35 PM »
Hi Dave,

Are you aware that the Almighty created evil (not all evil is sin) for a purpose. That evil didn't just appear, but was created. The ultimate evil is death and so without the evil of death there could not have been a warning, judgment and punishment for Adam and in Adam the entire human race.

Isaiah 45:7 KJV

Evil is an instrument in the hands of the Almighty. When time ends, evil will never again, affect the redeemed.

Selah.

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Re: The Law
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2017, 05:11:12 PM »
Hi Truster
Of course everything was created by God I thought this translation would have served you better.

Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So we can't argue with scripture can we but we do need to ask why for what reason like I said before its because of Love so we could love him freely from the heart even when everything is falling about around us we are to love him love our neighbour love our enemies.

God created satan to administer evil but he still has to ask Gods permission as with Job evil exists  to test our Love.

Love and Peace
Dave

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Re: The Law
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2017, 05:42:03 PM »
I didn't realise the verses would be a translation other than KJV. I have amended Dave, thanks.

Satan was not created to administer evil he was created to serve at the throne. He was the most beautiful of all the angels. He and his host were created mutable and fell.

Ezekiel 28:13,14,15,16 KJV

 

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Re: The Law
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2017, 05:21:36 PM »
I didn't realise the verses would be a translation other than KJV. I have amended Dave, thanks.

Satan was not created to administer evil he was created to serve at the throne. He was the most beautiful of all the angels. He and his host were created mutable and fell.

Ezekiel 28:13,14,15,16 KJV

That's very true but on the other hand God knows the end from the beginning so he would have known what satan would do and he did not prevent it as yet so I see it as part of Gods purpose in creation.
You don't seam to think man has free will you call it a heresy on what scripture do you base this and why I have downloaded the pdf link you gave on the other thread but don't have time to read it at the moment.

If we don't have free will how can we obey this command.

Deu 30:19  I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

In the first instance it was for Israel but it was also for the seed ( singular ) which is Christ and those who are his.

Love and Peace
Dave

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Re: The Law
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2017, 05:34:46 PM »
Free will is the wide gate and the broad way.

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Re: The Law
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2017, 06:49:08 PM »
Free will is the wide gate and the broad way.

Hi Truster
Jest because you say so dose not make it true what scriptures do you base your statement.

Love and peace
Dave