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Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« on: May 29, 2016, 07:59:05 AM »

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/06/mindfulness-hospitals-schools

Yeah - it's 'Mindfulness' - again :rolleyes:

I am sure that many consider this a harmless thing - I am not so sure and what I am finding increasingly worrying is how much it is infiltrating Western Society (and yes I am aware that so many other things are too), but this practice is being taught in schools - I found out recently being used with vulnerable children too.

Yes the NHS are using it too - in fact I personally am getting sick of people trying to get me to engage in 'Mindfulness'.

From the article (see link above);

'Or the project in Cardiff which taught the single mum who recently stood in front of a gathering of Welsh Assembly members to describe movingly how mindfulness had helped her to be a better parent, as well as to find the confidence for public speaking.'

Sounds great? How wonderful this mindfulness is - almost miraculous - so where is the source from? where is the root? If this is of God then the glory to God, but I am not hearing or seeing that! God works in miracles - hmmmmmmmm where else might I see miraculous signs?

Also from the article;

'The point is that, diligently practised, it very quietly and slowly revolutionises lives in multiple ways ? sometimes small, sometimes big. And when you start noticing that process of change ? both in yourself and in others ? it is quite simply astonishing.'

Sounds very powerful. Hhmmmmmmm.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/06/mindfulness-hospitals-schools

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 10:00:30 AM »
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/06/mindfulness-hospitals-schools

Yeah - it's 'Mindfulness' - again :rolleyes:

I am sure that many consider this a harmless thing - I am not so sure and what I am finding increasingly worrying is how much it is infiltrating Western Society (and yes I am aware that so many other things are too), but this practice is being taught in schools - I found out recently being used with vulnerable children too.

Yes the NHS are using it too - in fact I personally am getting sick of people trying to get me to engage in 'Mindfulness'.

From the article (see link above);

'Or the project in Cardiff which taught the single mum who recently stood in front of a gathering of Welsh Assembly members to describe movingly how mindfulness had helped her to be a better parent, as well as to find the confidence for public speaking.'

Sounds great? How wonderful this mindfulness is - almost miraculous - so where is the source from? where is the root? If this is of God then the glory to God, but I am not hearing or seeing that! God works in miracles - hmmmmmmmm where else might I see miraculous signs?

Also from the article;

'The point is that, diligently practised, it very quietly and slowly revolutionises lives in multiple ways ? sometimes small, sometimes big. And when you start noticing that process of change ? both in yourself and in others ? it is quite simply astonishing.'

Sounds very powerful. Hhmmmmmmm.

Mindfulness is rooted in Buddhism. This is yet another fad to fill the void left by christianity.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/06/mindfulness-hospitals-schools
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2016, 10:20:05 AM »
Mindfullness will never be mandatory as secularism/atheism is societies default setting.
Chesterton got it right,
    ' when you do away with a belief in God, you replace it with a belief in anything!'

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2016, 10:31:42 AM »
Don't know whether you'll find this helpfuul Seeker, the attached link is to an article by a Christian physcologists and is his opinion on it, I thought it was helpfull.
Christian Psychology and Mindfulness https://www.biblical.edu/faculty-blog/96-regular-content/608-christian-psychology-and-mindfulness
https://www.biblical.edu/faculty-blog/96-regular-content/608-christian-psychology-and-mindfulness

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2016, 02:48:41 PM »
Mindfullness will never be mandatory as secularism/atheism is societies default setting.

I think John that you will find that they consider mindfulness to secular/atheistic. Thus promoting it becomes part of their armoury to destroy christianity.

Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 04:07:06 PM »
It's just yet another fad. That the devil uses to blind men to the truth. The only thing that is mandatory is that what fad is used must not be Christian or lead/link to Christianity.

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 05:31:00 PM »
The thing is I have seen this fad before, but it was just dressed up under other names - meditation (not the Christian version, which is to mull things over, meditate on the word of God) and also to some extent yoga. It all seems to have the same goal - altered states of consciousness. Now whilst I will readily admit not all altered states of consciousness are automatically bad, any that might lead to trance like states where one is kind of letting go of control I am definitely uneasy with. Plus I think that it is readily admitted that 'mindfulness' is to help one have an open mind?

Now having a closed mind is hardly attractive, but then again I don't want it so open that I'll buy into anything either.

So if this so called 'fad' has been about before - under different guises, then is it really a 'fad'? Surely it is just the latest name/incarnation that is the 'fad' whereas the actual practice has been about for quite some time. I think such things are gaining popularity, more acceptance though, I have seen such things gain more acceptance in my life time anyways.

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Re: Why we will come to see mindfulness as mandatory
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2016, 02:27:40 PM »
I was thinking along the lines of we've had meditation, crystals, yoga as well as other 'christian cults and odd religions etc They are all used to distract those who are spiritualy inclinded from turning to investigate Jesus.
From the little reading I've done about mindefulness and meditation, its about not being judgemental, there are no wrong right actions, of being setteled/at peace with ones self.
Which is directly opposed to Christianity.

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