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Offline Mountain Goat

Athism in the church.
« on: March 22, 2016, 07:05:44 PM »

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A few church leaders do not believe in God. One has to ask "Does God believe in athists?"


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Offline Old Follower

Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 10:08:05 PM »
When an athiest dies, he is no longer an athiest  :)

Offline John

Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2017, 04:29:04 PM »
John Blanchard wrote the book, Does God Believe in Atheists.
Like all his books its a hard hitting argument and historical review of belief and nonbelief.

If your minister doen't belief, it depends on your church set up. Independants can dismiss the minister as they employ him with organised demoninations its far more difficult so I would suggest protesting and leaving.

Offline francis drake

Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 10:14:05 PM »
Don't forget, the previous Archbishop of Canterbury was an enrolled druid.

Is there any wonder the nation is in such a state when the church is so Godless.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Mountain Goat

Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 10:57:57 PM »
While he is alive he still has a chance to repent as do we all, and serve the living God.
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Offline John

Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2017, 10:56:52 AM »
It is all in the name!
the bbc says :-" Dr Williams became a member of the highest of the three orders of the Gorsedd of Bards - a 1,300-strong circle of Wales' key cultural contributors - in a ceremony at this year's National Eisteddfod celebration of Welsh culture in St Davids, Pembrokeshire"
 Was he wise to support the welsh, or appear to support pagan religion, is a different question.


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Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2017, 03:29:14 PM »
I don't get this. Bards are not druids - they're just poets who write in classical Welsh. And what on earth is wrong with supporting the Welsh?

I seem to remember there was an occasion when Dr Williams was involved with druids in some way, but it must have been something different.
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Offline francis drake

Re: Athism in the church.
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2017, 11:59:16 PM »
I don't get this. Bards are not druids - they're just poets who write in classical Welsh. And what on earth is wrong with supporting the Welsh?

I seem to remember there was an occasion when Dr Williams was involved with druids in some way, but it must have been something different.
The following is pasted from the Wikipedia entry for that order of so called bards.
Gorsedd Beirdd Ynys Prydain was founded in 1792 by Edward Williams, commonly known as Iolo Morganwg, who also invented much of its ritual, supposedly based on the activities of the ancient Celtic Druidry.[5] Nowadays, much of its ritual has Christian influence, and were given further embellishment in the 1930s by Archdruid Cynan (1950?1954).[citation needed] The Gorsedd y Beirdd made its first appearance at the Eisteddfod at the Ivy Bush Inn in Carmarthen in 1819, and its close association with the Festival has remained. It is an association of poets, writers, musicians, artists and individuals who have made a significant and distinguished contribution to Welsh language, literature, and culture.

You will see that although it pays lip service to Christian hymns as many false religions do, its roots are clearly druid/pagan.
Its complete idiocy as well as lack of discernment for anyone in leadership of the church to dabble in such things. But then we are talking about the church of England, a non Christian institution.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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