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TJ

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #80 on: June 13, 2016, 01:55:50 PM »
Adam was a new creation once Jesus placed the bloody skin around his shoulders.
ie. The first Adam's life was now in the second Adam, Christ Jesus.
As was Abel's. etc.

Well Adam was formed from the new earth [or old] and was made as new [being the only one at that time]  Genesis 1:31; and God liked His new creation

I suppose the difference is that Adam was then made  a "new creation - as in 2 Corinthians 5:17; Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! "



TJ

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2016, 02:09:24 PM »
Have you put emphasis on that word for a reason? I noticed it on the word 'hiStory' too.

 Well it can be demonstrated as being one thing - can can turn out to be something quite different.[appearing as [new creation]

Yes - it becomes History rather than history [new creation]


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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #82 on: June 13, 2016, 02:10:45 PM »
Well Adam was formed from the new earth [or old] and was made as new [being the only one at that time]  Genesis 1:31; and God liked His new creation

I suppose the difference is that Adam was then made  a "new creation - as in 2 Corinthians 5:17; Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! "

Can't work out your rambling TJ.
I am not talking about Adam's first creation and that should be very clear from my post.
Adam became renewed after the fall, again quite clear from my post.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2016, 06:55:56 PM »
Hi
Slot to take in not sure I understand it all I will try to make my position a bit clearer.  I believe that there are three creations but they are all part of one big creation the three parts are the beginning to Noah Noah to Christ and Christ to the end of Revelations.
When God destroyed the world with the flood he began again because the ark contained the things God had created the only thing missing was man in God's image so God created Israel a recreation of Adam but Israel rejected there King Christ they were rejected and a new creation began with Christ.
So that this creation would fit in with the six days of creation the days were shortened

Matthew 24:22New International Version (NIV)

22 ?If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened

The days of creation being 6000 years the end of creation being man in God's image which is Christ united with his bride the church.
All these creations are parts of one big creation the end of which is God the father's  Sabbath rest when all things are given over to Christ's millennial  rule.
I believe  it must be so other wise it would mean God had failed twice and that's unthinkable.

Love and peace
Dave


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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2016, 11:28:57 PM »
Can't work out your rambling TJ.
I am not talking about Adam's first creation and that should be very clear from my post.
Adam became renewed after the fall, again quite clear from my post.

Yes I agree that Adam was renewed after the fall  :D , as posted earlier

sorry if my posting seems to ramble


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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2016, 11:30:22 PM »
Hi
Slot to take in not sure I understand it all I will try to make my position a bit clearer.  I believe that there are three creations but they are all part of one big creation the three parts are the beginning to Noah Noah to Christ and Christ to the end of Revelations.
When God destroyed the world with the flood he began again because the ark contained the things God had created the only thing missing was man in God's image so God created Israel a recreation of Adam but Israel rejected there King Christ they were rejected and a new creation began with Christ.
So that this creation would fit in with the six days of creation the days were shortened

Matthew 24:22New International Version (NIV)

22 ?If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened

The days of creation being 6000 years the end of creation being man in God's image which is Christ united with his bride the church.
All these creations are parts of one big creation the end of which is God the father's  Sabbath rest when all things are given over to Christ's millennial  rule.
I believe  it must be so other wise it would mean God had failed twice and that's unthinkable.

Love and peace
Dave

I,ll reply later  dave

TJ

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #86 on: June 14, 2016, 12:46:36 AM »
Well it can be demonstrated as being one thing - can can turn out to be something quite different.[appearing as [new creation]


Yes - it becomes History rather than history [new creation]

Let me make myself clearer..............



Exploring avenues of "new creation"



EG : 2 Corinthians 11:14 KJB And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

In other words an outward demonstration is not always from an inward change.

When a person is "born again" the inner changes may take time to surface and not always seem evidnet to some.

But it's all about HiStory and not about history



Hope that makes sense [I can go deeper if you want me too]





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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #87 on: June 14, 2016, 01:48:53 AM »
Hi
Slot to take in not sure I understand it all I will try to make my position a bit clearer.  I believe that there are three creations but they are all part of one big creation the three parts are the beginning to Noah Noah to Christ and Christ to the end of Revelations.
When God destroyed the world with the flood he began again because the ark contained the things God had created the only thing missing was man in God's image so God created Israel a recreation of Adam but Israel rejected there King Christ they were rejected and a new creation began with Christ.
So that this creation would fit in with the six days of creation the days were shortened

Matthew 24:22New International Version (NIV)

22 ?If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened

The days of creation being 6000 years the end of creation being man in God's image which is Christ united with his bride the church.
All these creations are parts of one big creation the end of which is God the father's  Sabbath rest when all things are given over to Christ's millennial  rule.
I believe  it must be so other wise it would mean God had failed twice and that's unthinkable.

Love and peace
Dave

Yes I understand what you are saying @davetaff

Three creations...you have divided things into three sections..

But now look at Revelation 13:8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the Lamb's book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.