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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2016, 03:41:18 PM »
I really did enjoy reading what you posted Serenity. The above did get me thinking though.

I am aware that God can and does protect us, but always? against everything?

It is also quite clear to me that there is suffering in this world, but the above line did kind of get me wondering. Does God always protect those who are faithful to him? The disciples were not protected against often horrendous deaths.

So what does God protect us against?

Interestingly enough todays sermon at church was on Psalm 121 which is pretty much about protection from God.

Also the person doing the sermon said even though obviously stuff happens in life, we don't really know just how much God is holding back/protecting us from 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7  'And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.'

It was a good sermon. Quite a few good points raised; on the matter of God protecting us some of the points brought up were;

We need to remember it - that God protects us.
We need to declare that God protects us.
We need to believe (trust have faith) that God protects us.

I know this post might be slightly off topic to the original thread, sorry davetaff, just wanted to share, in case such is of use to anyone else.

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 04:21:18 PM »
Hi Seeker
Thanks for your posts no need to be sorry ask away we can always come back to topic as a matter of fact the psalm you quoted 121 is bang on topic I have jest read it and it's all about Christ jest the kind of thing I'm looking for thanks.
How dose God protect us by taking away the fear of death the scriptures tell us there will be trials and tribulation for believers in this life but compared with eternity it's jest a moment in time we are protected through the knowledge of God and what our Lord Jesus Christ has done for us.

Back to topic to add a little to my last post, It's interesting to note that Eve was created from Adam as the church the bride of Christ was created from the son of man Jesus Christ.
So it begs the question were Adam and Eve jest ordinary human beings or were they like Christ and his bride.

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2016, 05:36:16 PM »
Hi
God put Adam and Eve in the Garden together to tend it, with Christ and his bride he separated them Christ was taken up to heaven I think this was done so the woman the church could not tempt our Lord.
The Church is not sinless but forgiven through the blood of Christ and they will be united at Christ's second advent.

After the fall God clothed  them with skins I have wondered was this to put them on the same level as the beasts of the field.

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Dave

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2016, 06:52:25 PM »
Hi
God put Adam and Eve in the Garden together to tend it, with Christ and his bride he separated them Christ was taken up to heaven I think this was done so the woman the church could not tempt our Lord.
The Church is not sinless but forgiven through the blood of Christ and they will be united at Christ's second advent.

After the fall God clothed  them with skins I have wondered was this to put them on the same level as the beasts of the field.

Love and Peace
Dave

Okay - so men cannot tempt women? I might be picking up something that isn't there, but personally I think both women and men are both jointly guilty and capable of tempting the other. I might be misunderstanding here though - you could be using metaphors, or something similar, which I have failed to see, in which case I am sorry and could you please elaborate?

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2016, 08:05:27 PM »
"After the fall God clothed  them with skins I have wondered was this to put them on the same level as the beasts of the field."
When they ate the fruit there eyes were opened and they realised that they were naked, so they sewed fig leaves together.
God clothed them in skins to give more durable clothing, it was also the first animal sacrifice that covered their sin with the blood of a slain animal.

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2016, 02:50:06 PM »
Hi Seeker you said
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Okay - so men cannot tempt women? I might be picking up something that isn't there, but personally I think both women and men are both jointly guilty and capable of tempting the other. I might be misunderstanding here though - you could be using metaphors, or something similar, which I have failed to see, in which case I am sorry and could you please elaborate? - See more at: http://www.1faith.co.uk/bible-buddies/genesis-and-the-ot/msg54986/#new   [/quote

Sorry if I did not make myself clear I am not talking about a normal man and woman after all we know Paul  has told us there is no difference in Christ.
what I am trying to say is that Christ is the head of the body which is  his bride the church the woman Christ's helper.
The body consists of  thousands and thousands of individuals all united by the holy Spirit the blood of Christ the woman the church is to be obedient to the head which is Christ the same as your body is obedient to your head.

the question I'm asking was Adam and Eve created the same as Christ and his church Adam was created first Eve was created out of Adam was Eve thousands of individuals Christ is called the second Adam so I think Adam and Christ should resemble each other in some way don't you think.

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2016, 03:35:20 PM »
"After the fall God clothed  them with skins I have wondered was this to put them on the same level as the beasts of the field."
When they ate the fruit there eyes were opened and they realised that they were naked, so they sewed fig leaves together.
God clothed them in skins to give more durable clothing, it was also the first animal sacrifice that covered their sin with the blood of a slain animal.

Hi John
Thanks for your post I liked your point of the first animal sacrifice to cover sin of course this is pointing us to the ultimate sacrifice for sin the lamb of God Jesus Christ.
I was also thinking of the fig leaves is not the fig tree a sign for Israel.
I think it's wonderful that in the very beginning of the bible we find so many signs that point us to Christ.

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Dave

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Re: Genesis and the OT
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2016, 04:22:01 PM »
Hi
Not to overlook this first appearance of our Lord to mankind.

Gen 3:8  And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

It's nice to have the assurance that our Lord has been with us from the beginning and will be with us to the end.

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Dave