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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2017, 11:56:40 AM »

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We are to let no man judge us concerning the keeping of 'days (Col.2:16,17).

However the keeping of one day in seven as a day of rest was instituted by our Creator, and is for the health of our body and mind, and worth observing from that point of view.

The keeping of the seventh day as a 'Sabbath', (Saturday), was instituted as part of the covenant with Israel, as a nation, and it is incumbent upon them to observe it in the way God ordained.

We are not subject to that covenant.

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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2017, 12:39:24 PM »
Yes @Maggy - I never really understood the basic day of rest, as being self employed I work 6 days a week and sundays have always been the busiest day for me [as I catch up with DIY in the home and jobs and family.

Mondays are usually my day of rest "when I tend to be shattered after the sunday"

Once upon a time sundays also included sunday school prep in the early hours of the morning and bible study prep  [also support group/housegroup/etc - so mondays became my rest day when I would begin work once more - but just take things a  bit easier.

I learnt to do everything "as unto the Lord" as I went along for many years - hence I called every day a sabbath day and rested in God - until I hit a seven year period when everything was like hell and life was a dread.

After this time I realised that "my only hope and sabbath was in Jesus " and not even every day in my work...

God took me far beyond what I could endure - to teach me that even days are limited and I had to lean "not on the limitaton of a day" but on the only Author of the days - even then it was about waiting on God and not about me or my needs.
Sadly, for some people, modern life does mean working 7 days a week to make ends meet, but it should not be so. We perform better when we rest. Not always easy to achieve, but I don't believe it matters which day we rest as long as we do.
I hope your life is a little less stressful now.
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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2017, 08:22:10 PM »


So yes - we need a day off once a week, and for the same reasons that the Israelites did: it's good for us, it's a witness to unbelievers, and it gives us opportunity to cultivate our relationship with God. And it gives us space in an otherwise full week to have meaningful interactions with other people (such as our families).
Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His
work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. Is anyone listening to this "Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it" and I'm told this was nailed to the cross. How? What does GOD mean then by blessing the seventh day and sanctifying it? Does it mean nothing? Scientists have proven that we need a day of rest, not just physical rest but mental rest too and this was given by GOD from the beginning yet we ignore it and many other things that would benefit us, for materialism and traditions. :sad:

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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2017, 12:12:55 AM »
Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His
work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. Is anyone listening to this "Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it" and I'm told this was nailed to the cross. How? What does GOD mean then by blessing the seventh day and sanctifying it? Does it mean nothing? Scientists have proven that we need a day of rest, not just physical rest but mental rest too and this was given by GOD from the beginning yet we ignore it and many other things that would benefit us, for materialism and traditions. :sad:

Aye - @Abel -  I remember the classic reply from a fellow believer .

"We must give God one day of the week" [classic]

As if one day a week is better than seven  :tongue:

of course the reply would be something like "O no not seven days a week -  I have to career"

I imagine of you asked a person in poverty in a third world country - they would gladly wrok seven days a week just to get hold of a bible..


But these all comes from  scriptures such as Exodus 34:21, Exodus 20:9, Exodus 23:12, Leviticus 23:3,

Obvously if we work 5 days a week and have 2 days rest - we violate the commandment. [if we live by them]


Thus God /Jesus say " John 5:17  In his defense Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working."


Although their work was finished [in which we rest] the Trinity never stop working [outside of time]

Quite what we define as work is another question... [as a ministers/pastors - paid work may  include a sunday preach/pastoral work - plus another 6 days of work and every seven years  a sabbatical leave - which can be from months to a years rest]


So if we work on this principle - you would work 7 days a week and after 7 years, you would sabbatical for anything from a few months  to a year. [in this principle I would be bankrupt and dealing with divorce]










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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2017, 10:41:25 AM »
Aye - @Abel -  I remember the classic reply from a fellow believer .

"We must give God one day of the week" [classic]

As if one day a week is better than seven  :tongue:

of course the reply would be something like "O no not seven days a week -  I have to career"

I imagine of you asked a person in poverty in a third world country - they would gladly wrok seven days a week just to get hold of a bible..


But these all comes from  scriptures such as Exodus 34:21, Exodus 20:9, Exodus 23:12, Leviticus 23:3,

Obvously if we work 5 days a week and have 2 days rest - we violate the commandment. [if we live by them]


Thus God /Jesus say " John 5:17  In his defense Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working."


Although their work was finished [in which we rest] the Trinity never stop working [outside of time]

Quite what we define as work is another question... [as a ministers/pastors - paid work may  include a sunday preach/pastoral work - plus another 6 days of work and every seven years  a sabbatical leave - which can be from months to a years rest]


So if we work on this principle - you would work 7 days a week and after 7 years, you would sabbatical for anything from a few months  to a year. [in this principle I would be bankrupt and dealing with divorce]
Classic MODERN CHRISTIANS. "I remember the classic reply from a fellow believer" The word of a fellow believer has more significance than the WORD OF GOD Unbelievable. How many more excuses do christians give for abandoning GOD's word and teachings for what they want. God have mercy on us all.

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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2017, 11:28:01 PM »



indeed both examples I gave are from scripture. as is the sabbatical year.


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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2017, 12:36:15 PM »
So what are you argueing about?
Whether we should have a day of recreation or whether we should work seven days a week or whether a particular day should be used for that recreation?

Most Christian follow the 'tradition' of worshipping God on the first day of the week, the day that Jesus is believed to have risen from the dead on.

Not everybode believes that, not everybody knows this or anyother reason. What is important is that Christians gather to worship, to encourage and be encouraged, to pray and to learn of God.

Whether this is done in an ornate building or not, in fancy dress, or everyday clothing is unimportant compared to the sincerity with which it is done.

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Re: The Sabbath
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2017, 02:58:59 AM »


What is rest @Abel

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