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Alan Hales

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Re: People who knew the end result
« Reply #64 on: December 24, 2015, 03:03:09 PM »

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No, that's just the context of the complete verse. Believing comes first. Scriptural truth is a waste of breath for those who don't believe.- "Pearls before swine."
John8v31Then said Jesus to those Jews who believed on him,
Thus the starting position was belief.

If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;
Not just knowing stuff, but continuing in it.

32And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
And that's what the result is, knowing truth at a heart level and becoming free by continuing in it.

People  have to  KNOW the truth before  they continue  in it.
Faith  comes by  knowing  the truth.

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Re: People who knew the end result
« Reply #65 on: December 24, 2015, 05:49:57 PM »
No, that's just the context of the complete verse. Believing comes first. Scriptural truth is a waste of breath for those who don't believe.- "Pearls before swine."
John8v31Then said Jesus to those Jews who believed on him,
Thus the starting position was belief.

If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;
Not just knowing stuff, but continuing in it.

32And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
And that's what the result is, knowing truth at a heart level and becoming free by continuing in it.

How can believing  come before knowing.
Those Jews in Jn 8, on Believed Jesus, there's a difference between  believing on Jesus and knowing His word
Every recently  born  again Christians believed  on Jesus,  but we didn't  know the word at that time. And some Christians  don't know  the word even now.

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Re: People who knew the end result
« Reply #66 on: December 24, 2015, 06:05:23 PM »
Hi
Something that came to mind this morning

Job 19:25  For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
Job 19:26  And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

With Job I also Know there is no doubt.

Love and Peace
and a very merry Christmas one and all
Dave

Your post inclines me to quote one of my favourite quotes, again:

  "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
BA

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Re: People who knew the end result
« Reply #67 on: December 24, 2015, 10:12:59 PM »
People  have to  KNOW the truth before  they continue  in it.
Faith  comes by  knowing  the truth.

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I agree that people have to KNOW the truth before they continue in it.
People have to know who the way the truth and the life is, before they continue in anything.

Alan/J4M, we really are getting bogged down in semantics here.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: People who knew the end result
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2015, 01:41:58 AM »
Happy Christmas Alan  :D

Love you in the Lord

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Re: People who knew the end result
« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2015, 10:19:08 AM »

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I agree that people have to KNOW the truth before they continue in it.
People have to know who the way the truth and the life is, before they continue in anything.

Alan/J4M, we really are getting bogged down in semantics here.

The keep to the topic
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