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Offline davetaff

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2017, 01:53:59 PM »

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Christmas one big spending spree I suppose it keeps a lot of businesses solvet and people employed dose it have any religious significance for some people maybe.
I think if it causes just one person to ask there self what's it all about or who is this Jesus and opens there bible to find out then it serves a good purpose.

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Offline John

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2017, 04:02:20 PM »
It is one of the few times of the year when people will willingly attend church.
That aside I love Christmas, I love the reason for the season, the excitement about resents, the gathering of family.

Offline francis drake

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2017, 05:10:32 PM »
It is one of the few times of the year when people will willingly attend church.
That aside I love Christmas, I love the reason for the season, the excitement about resents the gathering of family.
If that's the way you feel @John, I'm not visiting your house any time soon! Lol
What happened last year to make you feel like that? :thumbs_up:
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline John

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2017, 03:08:18 PM »
Well spotted Francis.
I'll ensure that any resents for you are delivered with extreme prune juice!

Offline wincam

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2017, 09:08:54 PM »
If that's the way you feel @John, I'm not visiting your house any time soon! Lol
What happened last year to make you feel like that? :thumbs_up:


if it is good enough for wise men and people of good will it is good enough for me - after all they travelled miles to bring their presents, they humbled themselves to the wonder of a child instead of contributing to the massacre or abortion of the innocents - btw its Christians origins are forgotten and abandoned - the first Christian Christmas tree was planted about AD 36 by a wonderful Christian, in England, without whom there would have been no Christmas or Easter or Christianity - wincam     
carpe diem/semper fidelis

Offline francis drake

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2017, 05:42:51 PM »

if it is good enough for wise men and people of good will it is good enough for me - after all they travelled miles to bring their presents, they humbled themselves to the wonder of a child instead of contributing to the massacre or abortion of the innocents - btw its Christians origins are forgotten and abandoned - the first Christian Christmas tree was planted about AD 36 by a wonderful Christian, in England, without whom there would have been no Christmas or Easter or Christianity - wincam   

I'm astounded you believe that silliness wincam.
Christmas has nothing whatsoever to do with the wise men, (who anyway actually came long after Jesus was born.)
The origins of Christmas and Easter are entirely pagan. In fact the very name of Easter comes from the fertility goddess Ishtar, or Ashtoreth.

Yes they have been given a so called Christian gloss to disguise the idolatrous origins, so people celebrate them in ignorant innocence. But to pretend they have a bible base falls somewhere between naive and dishonest.


Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2017, 02:55:00 AM »
I may be wrong - but I think in this quick reply "that the sherpherds that watched the flocks by night - were in the spring and not in the winter [although obviously they would have watched their flocks all year long]

But in the spring they would have watched the newly born - and protected them against predators...

So as shepherds watched their flocks by night - the Glory of the Lord may have shone around... yet the heavenly babe was not even born at this time... but merely fits into our calendar - as we live on today

This does not mean that Jesus was not born and nor does it take away the significance of the birth of Jesus - nor the yearly rejoi cing of the birth of Jesus.

It merely identifies  a diference in dates and events.

As Jesus and God lives outside of time - we can justify this as a spiritual event [outside of time] and accumiulate all the events within our time as being about the birth of Jesus.

Jesus was not born on 25th December and we recognise this - but we also recognise that Jesus was born [and in the spiritual we also confirm that there was a day and date when He was born in our hearts.

And so maybe we can rejoice at this time - that we are reborn and maybe Christmas has a dfferent meaning for those who are born again - [whatever the pagan source]  that at this time we found new life [however we live/move/believe/ on this day]



I might suggest it is not about have we live through December 25th - but who we are - after all IF  we are born again - then the day really has no meaning to us - as we are already lliving in a day .

Christmas is really a time to direct people to God - as why would it be any difereent to any other day to those who already know Jesus ?

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: What do you think of Christmas ?
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2017, 03:25:31 AM »
Seeing that scripture aligns Christmas with the three Kings and the shepherds and the birth of Jesus at the wrong date = being aligned by the Church.

Can we trust scripture /the Word/   ?


I am now hopping intio peoples minds and thoughts [niot that your thoughts or beliefs change anything]



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