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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #600 on: January 08, 2017, 04:16:08 PM »
Sorry for derailing the topic - but

What I am aiming at - is that ... God is above our mindsets.

In the norm 1 plus 1 is 1

In the norm the widows oil could not multiply

In the norm  Elija could not have raised a child back to life

In the norm according to the natural world that God created cancer cannot disappear..

And so on - therefore, God can overide the natural laws of physics, mathematics, science, etc , indeed even life itself.



Hi Q
Yes we are getting of topic a bit but not to worry we can always pick it up again.
who can understand God I believe its not possible for us mere mortals at the present time yes he can interfere with the naturell laws being as he created them.
The laws we are discussing are those given to Moses by which if Israel obeyed them they would live but of course they failed as we all  do so God gave us a better way to live through faith in his son and forgiveness of sins.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #601 on: January 11, 2017, 01:38:55 AM »
@davetaff

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God gave us a better way to live through faith in his son and forgiveness of sins.

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In a relationship with God, a beloved relationship, do you follow the laws of and for mankind?

were'nt they given to the Jews ?

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #602 on: January 13, 2017, 02:50:42 PM »
Hi
Here we are again thought I'd pick up were we left of after that very interesting diversion

Rev 16:13  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

What are the unclean spirits can they be all the false prophets that are come into the world which our Lord warned us about.

Mat 24:24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

That's why I think it best to stick to the scriptures instead of listening to what other men say.


Rev 16:14  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

So these evil spirits are at work in high places and looking at some of the news of late I can well believe it it seams the roomers of war is increasing nations flexing there mussels these words of our Lord came to mind.

 Mat 24:6  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8  All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Is it the evil spirits who cause  all this mayhem under the direction of there master.
 
Rev 16:15  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

I take this to mean the white rob of righteousness provided by our Lord it is our protection from evil.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #603 on: January 25, 2017, 02:29:57 PM »
Hi
Moving on to the next section.

 Rev 16:16  And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

I take this to mean gathering together the evil spirits ready for destruction.

Rev 16:17  And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Dose this mean the evil spirits have bean isolated ready for destruction.
 
Rev 16:18  And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

Not to sure about this verse maybe mankind's realisation that God actually exist's that would certainly shake the world up

Rev 16:19  And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

are the three parts the Jew the Christian and the Muslim

 
Rev 16:20  And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
Rev 16:21  And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Have wondered if this hail is the word of God very hard truth's

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #604 on: February 03, 2017, 02:13:34 PM »
Hi
Moving on a little more starting to be very interesting.

Rev 17:1  And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:2  With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:3  So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4  And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

What a scary picture is painted for us here who is this woman that rides the beast I believe it's the great financial institutions that rule the world behind the scenes it's not politicians and Kings or dictators its the one who holds the purse strings there only purpose is to accumulate more wealth they never have enough.

The words of St Paul are very appropriate I think.

1Ti_6:10  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #605 on: February 13, 2017, 02:16:56 PM »
Hi
To add a little to the above post some believe the woman who rides the beast is the Church of Rome I think that the orthodox churches the church of England and the different denominations or as I like to call them the church of man.
The true church is the spiritual body of Christ all those in all denominations who's heart is right with God.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #606 on: February 13, 2017, 05:23:49 PM »
Hello Dave,

Forgive me for being gone so long.  You did not cause me any offence.  I had started a new thread and had been commenting on others, and it just became too much with demands on the home front. 

You have moved on from chapter 14, where I last took part, perhaps I can recap a little to get back in again.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris




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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #607 on: February 13, 2017, 05:51:34 PM »
Hi Cariad
Welcome back you have bean missed especially here on bible buddies please feel free to jump in anywhere you feel comfortable I look forward to your input.
I know what you mean it can be overwhelming sometimes so many threads to answer it can be time consuming its jest to do the best we can with the time available.

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