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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #584 on: December 18, 2016, 02:55:03 PM »
Hi
Here I am again talking ti my self has nobody else out there any thoughts on these things not much fun on your own.
on to the next section.

 Rev 16:3  And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
Rev 16:4  And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
Rev 16:5  And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
Rev 16:6  For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
Rev 16:7  And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

We are told that the seas mentioned in revelations are peoples the sea of humanity if you like.
Could the blood of the dead man be the blood of Christ and every living soul died could it be the same kind of death we experience at baptism and from this death rebirth?
Then shall the waters of the word be mixed with the blood of the lamb the blood being the holy spirit are the peoples worthy because they have bean reborn.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #585 on: December 28, 2016, 02:20:29 PM »
Hi
Moving on to the next section.

Rev 16:8  And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
Rev 16:9  And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

Was wondering if this has to do with globale warming we know the earth is heating up and for all the talk about it it seams nothing is being done to rectify it.
But we know God has the power to rectify it all it needs is for mankind to turn to him and give him the glory.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #586 on: December 31, 2016, 03:01:47 AM »

Reminds me of the egyptian plagues in which none turned to give God glory

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #587 on: January 03, 2017, 03:57:02 PM »
Hi Q
I have wondered about this my self Is the exodus what will happen in the last days in miniature a type of prophecy as Israel was taken out of Egypt so the church will be taken out of the world.
What happens  to the first Adam happens to the last Adam but on a bigger scale.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #588 on: January 04, 2017, 01:03:43 AM »
Well the bible does seem to repeat itself /reflect/ prophecy/repeat/ itself..

It was  only natural that those who believed in the  egyptian god's - should therefore  suffer from the worship of those god's [as in the worship of the egyptian god's and the apparent plagues] of which each was a mirror of each god.

eg; "Each plague had a meaning as per god worshipped"

God simply used their god's/neighbours/  against them. [those they tabernacled with]

re: "love of life becomes an enemy" - neigbour is enemy [as the hebrews became egypts enemies also / a god becomes your own enemy - or I  can be my own worst  own enemy.

What is an enemy ! it's something that works against you and this can also be God







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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #589 on: January 05, 2017, 02:49:22 PM »
Well the bible does seem to repeat itself /reflect/ prophecy/repeat/ itself..

It was  only natural that those who believed in the  egyptian god's - should therefore  suffer from the worship of those god's [as in the worship of the egyptian god's and the apparent plagues] of which each was a mirror of each god.

eg; "Each plague had a meaning as per god worshipped"

God simply used their god's/neighbours/  against them. [those they tabernacled with]

re: "love of life becomes an enemy" - neigbour is enemy [as the hebrews became egypts enemies also / a god becomes your own enemy - or I  can be my own worst  own enemy.

What is an enemy ! it's something that works against you and this can also be God

Hi Q
Thanks for your post interesting a little hard to understand do you think God is working against the world as he did with Pharaoh when he hardened his heart.
Is God the enemy of mankind at the present time do we have to join the enemy to be saved.
Is God inflicting all these terrible plagues on mankind the same as he did on Egypt.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #590 on: January 06, 2017, 02:11:40 PM »
Hi
Lets take a look at the next section.

Rev 16:9  And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

 Iv'e include Rev 16:9 again because of this line " God, which hath power over these plagues" nice to know that God has the power over the plagues all it takes is for mankind to repent.

Rev 16:10  And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
Rev 16:11  And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Here we see God directly attacking satans beast and his kingdom which became full of darkness I wonder if this darkness is lack of the glorious light of the Gospel which the world seams to be moving into at the present time.
 
Rev 16:12  And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

Can the Kings of the east be like the three kings from the east that visited Jesus at his first advent history repeating itself again I wonder who they mite be.

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Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #591 on: January 07, 2017, 12:53:59 AM »
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Iv'e include Rev 16:9 again because of this line " God, which hath power over these plagues" nice to know that God has the power over the plagues all it takes is for mankind to repent.

amen

God and plagues = No plagues

God and Loafs and fishes = no hunger

Elisha and oil = unlimited

etc...

God is above the laws He created...

1 X 1 can be 1 million - as far as God is concerned - he does not work by our values