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TJ

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #352 on: May 21, 2016, 02:44:15 AM »
Yes but satan became an angel of darkness as described in 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.



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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #353 on: May 21, 2016, 02:53:16 AM »
Do not forget that those who follow him also appear as the same.

 A light to the path and a lamp....

You see satan can transform himself into anything you desire - see the temptations of Jesus.......he can even be the tree of life..[never think you have made it]

satan can be a light and a lamp - as can his followers.

But he does not take part in the communion of Jesus as Judas did................








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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #354 on: May 21, 2016, 11:03:03 AM »
Do not forget that those who follow him also appear as the same.

 A light to the path and a lamp....

You see satan can transform himself into anything you desire - see the temptations of Jesus.......he can even be the tree of life..[never think you have made it]

satan can be a light and a lamp - as can his followers.

But he does not take part in the communion of Jesus as Judas did................

You got me thinking. Satan entered Judas before the last supper (communion) I think, so Satan was in Judas and kind of did take part in the last supper/communion? (See Luke 22).

1 Corinthians 10:21 popped into my mind too 'You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord?s table and of the table of demons.'

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #355 on: May 21, 2016, 01:37:02 PM »
you got it   :D

reminds me of 2 Corinthians 12:16

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #356 on: May 21, 2016, 02:53:09 PM »
Hi
Moving on so we don't get to side tracked isn't great how much interest can be gleaned from a few verses.

Rev 8:12  And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
Rev 8:13  And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

If the sun is Christ the moon the church the star's the saints dose the darkening mean over the last two thousand years there teachings have lost there sparkle not as bright and clear as they used to be.

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« Reply #357 on: May 21, 2016, 07:50:58 PM »
Dave,
           Why then was Jesus struck and why was a third of Jesus darkened?

Take a look at church history. Yes there have been many times when the gospel has not be preached or believed, yet there have also been times when God's spirit has moved in power, changing a great many people. There has never been a time when the gospel sparkled over the whole world, so it can't have lost what it never had.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #358 on: May 22, 2016, 04:08:51 PM »
Hi John
Thanks for your reply I did not mean that Christ was struck I was thinking maybe the gospel or the word was somehow darkened by man's interpretation's I was also thinking of a thousand years for a day is there any period in early church history which would correspond to 333 years of darkened preaching maybe the time before the reformation.
Jest a thought not an easy scripture to interpret.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #359 on: May 22, 2016, 11:43:08 PM »
Hi John
Thanks for your reply I did not mean that Christ was struck I was thinking maybe the gospel or the word was somehow darkened by man's interpretation's I was also thinking of a thousand years for a day is there any period in early church history which would correspond to 333 years of darkened preaching maybe the time before the reformation.
Jest a thought not an easy scripture to interpret.

Love and Peace
Dave   


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