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TJ

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #272 on: March 19, 2016, 12:08:18 AM »
For example Revelation 21:12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.






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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #273 on: March 19, 2016, 12:44:32 AM »
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Jacob's twelve sons (in order of birth), Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin, become the ancestors of twelve tribes, with the exception of Joseph, whose two sons Mannasseh and Ephraim, who were adopted by Jacob, become tribal eponyms...names (Genesis 48)....source wikipedia

Thought would list em




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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #274 on: March 19, 2016, 12:52:45 AM »
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Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah spoken of as "a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), and so Jesus plays the role of the king-priest once and for all. According to the writer of Hebrews (7:13-17) Jesus is considered a priest in the order of Melchizedek because, like Melchizedek, Jesus was not a descendant of Aaron, and thus would not qualify for the Jewish priesthood under the Law of Moses.

Melchizedek is referred to again in Hebrews 5:6-10; Hebrews 6:20; Hebrews 7:1-21: "Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek"; and Hebrews 8:1.


And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises" (Hebrews 7:5-6).


If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law" (Hebrews 7:11-12).

I wouldn't normally quote so much, especially from Wikipedia, but I thought this interesting re the 13 tribes...Jesus creating one, because He wouldn't have qualified as a priest in any other tribe type thing....or that is how im seeing it.




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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #276 on: March 19, 2016, 03:04:42 PM »
Hi
What's interesting in the list of the tribes of Israel in revelations is Dan and  Ephraim is missing they where both rejected for idolatry the two sons of Joseph Ephraim and Manasseh where blessed as half tribes  I take it that it was to fill the gap left by Dan.
We see this again in the twelve Apostles Judas was also rejected for idolatry the thirty pieces of silver meant more to him than our Lord so he betrayed him.
So his place was left empty so the apostles appointed Matthias to take his place and our lord appointed St Paul So Matthias and Paul represents the the two half tribes which make up the twelve apostles.
I always find it fascinating see things that happened in Israel's history being played out in the life and times of our Lord I always see Israel as the first Adam so what happens to Israel happens to Christ and his Church but with a better outcome.

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #277 on: March 19, 2016, 03:19:41 PM »
Dave, I  weren't sure where to put my reply to guardy on the other thread, because I felt it pertained to that thread and this one...I posted it on the other thread, but here is the link because I think it relevant here too... http://www.1faith.co.uk/bible-buddies/god-takes-care-of-children/msg55231/?topicseen#msg55231
http://www.1faith.co.uk/bible-buddies/god-takes-care-of-children/msg55231/?topicseen#msg55231

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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #278 on: March 24, 2016, 01:08:16 AM »
Good stuff @davetaff   :great:


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Re: Revelation discussion, chapter by chapter
« Reply #279 on: March 24, 2016, 02:20:14 PM »
Hi
Moving on to the next passage sorry its a bit long but I did not know how to break it up it's such a wonderful piece of scripture.

Rev 7:9  After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 7:10  And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 7:11  And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 7:12  Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 7:13  And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 7:14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Rev 7:16  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
Rev 7:17  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

A great multitude sometimes one thinks we are so alone as believers in this day and age but we are a great multitude of brothers and sisters in the lord who will be looked after by him read the last two verses what wonderful promises we have so much to look forward to.

Love and Peace
Dave