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« Reply #136 on: May 16, 2016, 08:44:36 PM »



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Aye vote out, don't ya just love good ole Boris, watched him on news today.  I didn't get what the uproar was about comparing the EU to is no surprise and a very legitimate comparison.  Thanks soldiers for dying for nothing in WW1 and 2, because you all got sold down the swanny by your own country.  Very 'churchillian and british' ... mm another ridiculous statement I have heard lately from the propaganda department.  By a prime minister we had that has been one of the most rubbish ... Gordon Brown.  Next on the stupid says stupid statements, I am awaiting them.  Even my 18yr old who knows nothing about politics, comes out with things like 'oh listen to the propaganda' when we get stupid is as stupid does people like Brown speaking up!



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[Newsview]Trump warning over UK relationship
« Reply #137 on: May 17, 2016, 01:00:05 AM »
Trump warning over UK relationship

Donald Trump warning over UK relationship


    16 May 2016

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Donald Trump has warned he may not have a "very good relationship" with UK Prime Minister David Cameron if he wins the US presidency.

Mr Cameron has called the Republican hopeful "stupid, divisive and wrong" over his call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US.

Mr Trump also said he would not forgive London Mayor Sadiq Khan for calling him "ignorant".

Spokespeople for Mr Cameron and Mr Khan said they stood by their comments.

Last year, Mr Trump, who has beaten his rivals to become the presumptive Republican candidate, called for a temporary halt to all Muslims entering the US in the wake of the deadly terror attack in San Bernardino, California.

He said many Muslims nursed a "hatred" towards America and a ban should be in force "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

Responding to Mr Trump's comments at the time, Mr Cameron said: "I think his remarks are divisive, stupid and wrong and I think if he came to visit our country I think it'd unite us all against him."

Speaking on ITV's Good Morning Britain earlier on Monday, Mr Trump said: "It looks like we're not going to have a very good relationship, who knows.


"I hope to have a good relationship with him, but it sounds like he's not willing to address the problem either."


Media captionDavid Cameron says Trump's comments are 'divisive, stupid and wrong'

He also criticised what he called the "very rude statements" made about him by Sadiq Khan - the first Muslim to be elected Mayor of London - after Mr Trump said suggested he would make an "exception" to the ban for the London mayor.

Mr Khan dismissed Mr Trump's offer and accused the US presidential hopeful of holding "ignorant" views of Islam which "could make both our countries less safe" by playing in to the hands of extremists.


Media captionSadiq Khan: I won't be Donald Trump's Muslim 'exception'

Responding, Mr Trump told ITV: "I am offended, he doesn't know me. They are very rude statements. I think it's ignorant of him to say that."

He also challenged Mr Khan to an IQ test.

But as the public spat between the two men continued, a spokesman for Mr Khan said US voters would reject Mr Trump's "ignorant, divisive and dangerous" views.

He said there were "no plans" to seek direct talks with Mr Trump and mocked his IQ challenge, saying: "Ignorance is not the same thing as lack of intelligence."

'Back of the queue'

Mr Trump, who is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party after pushing out more than a dozen rivals during the US primary season to be a candidate in the race for the White House, reiterated that he backed the UK leaving the European Union.

In contrast to US President Barack Obama, who has warned that an EU exit would leave the UK at the "back of the queue" in trade talks, Mr Trump said he did not think it would harm the UK's trade position.

"It wouldn't make any difference to me whether they were in the EU or not," he said. "They certainly wouldn't be back of the queue, that I can tell you."

Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told ITV's Good Morning Britain that it "can't be good" if Mr Trump were to be elected as US president in November.

"I'd agree with that. I have huge and infinite faith in the American people that he won't be," she said.


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Re: News Capture - Todays News
« Reply #138 on: May 17, 2016, 01:16:49 AM »
Not quite sure what trump would be able to do as everything would have to be passed through congress

Every word he uttered would be written for him

All he would have on the end "would be a status"

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« Reply #139 on: May 17, 2016, 01:16:44 PM »
Friends. It is not that I think bad of Europe. I love our neighbours deerly and want the very best for them. It is more that I believe that Britain should not surrender its rulership to others outside the country who's hearts are not for its people. (Not saying the EU hearts don't love us. Just saying that every country in the EU area is different and needs different rules. Neither am I saying that we can't help our neighbours or trade or share with them).
Every country, especially the Uk, has its own unique difficulties and needs special care. It is why after several attempts of EU control via various rulers we have fought and battled to keep Britain working as one single unit for our protection and our future that we have not tried to be unified as one European entity. We have been prepared to give up our lives to defend ourselves and free others through two world wars and many battles in the past because we know Gods will for our islands.
Yes, the UK is not perfect. Due to the huge population of the city of London with its own desperate issues and having the greater vote, outlying areas can find themselves having rules that don't apply or worse still go against their interests where it works in London. Now can you imagine this magnified a thousand times more if we join the EU? (Could the UK relocate our Parliament to a more central position with good access links for all?)
I remember God showing me Britain as He sees it. The vision He showed was the whole of Britain and the whole of Ireland together. Each country within bringing their own speciality to the good of all.
Regarding immigration. I believe we all should have the right to come and go to whatever country we feel called to. However we need to accept the laws of the land we end up in. (Not saying the laws are right or wrong). A lot of the lack of work in Britain today has little to do with immigration but that of the EU imposing extra regulation to prevent us prospering. Not because they hate us, but it is to try and bring our economy inline with theirs ready for us to join them. As the EU can't have any one country prosper over others or it means the euro will not remain stable. Notice how under Labour (Who vowed to take us into Europe) our coinage shrank in size to be comparable with the coins of the euro. Back then we couldn't fully join as we would have had to cut so many jobs overnight to stabilize the economy to bring it inline it wouldn't have worked. Our prosperity would have been severely capped should we have joined. Because of this we are still in poverty today.
Yes, if we go it alone, at first we may head into poverty but then we will prosper as we will have the freedom to do so.
Rather then the EU saying we will only trade with you if...., we should be saying to the EU that we will only trade with you if.... (As despite what we have been led to believe, we still have the very best ores in Europe. The steel made in Wales was specifically preferred for use on German built cars rather then using their own ores (Our own cars like Rovers would rust quick due to us using poorer grades of steel for economy purposes). Our coal in wales was so good it used to be shipped right round the world. Our coal in England, though poorer quality, had such large seamsit could be mined so easily that few other countries could have matched it. True some mines were exhausted, but we' very hardly scratched the surface of what is down there.
Do not fall for the pollution and environment tax fund raising lark that is there to make certain people rich and keep others poor. We tax diesels less yet they are heavier polluters then petrol engined cars, and since more diesel cars are here today we have greater pollution. (Petrol is more refined. Petrol fumes go up. Diesel goes down. Is heavier. Hence city pollution. Hybrid or todays electric cars pollute the most of all. A minimum of 10 times more pollution goes into the environment to manufacture the batteries then the entire manufacture and lifespan of a glass guzzling 30 mpg or less petrol car. The only way to have less polluting cars is by eliminating the need for batteries by feeding power from a pantograph system. Hence one can see the falicy of the anti pollution laws!)

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Re: News Capture - Todays News
« Reply #140 on: May 17, 2016, 09:45:29 PM »
Not quite sure what trump would be able to do as everything would have to be passed through congress

Every word he uttered would be written for him

All he would have on the end "would be a status"

I think you are way off course TJ.

Obama has been doing loads of stuff without approval of congress. The status of President cannot be compared to PM.

Obama is an evil man. Unfortunately most democrat or republican party members are all part of the ruling elite working for the New World Order. It doesn't really matter which of the two US parties people vote for because they are all into the globalist NWO agenda. The same is true for Britain, all three Westminster elite parties work for the NWO to establish the United States of Europe.

However, Trump is a complete maverick, a self made man, and although he is taking the Republican ticket, he has only been able to do that because of the primary elections. The Republican hierarchy are furious and have been doing their damnedest to get him ejected, but they cannot stop the people voting for him.
Rather like the UK the mainstream parties are totally out of touch with the people. They have their agendas and Trump has completely interfered with them. Virtually all the media hates him because he doesn't play their game either.
I have followed Trump as he has fought his way up, and he is obviously not perfect, but the one thing he has in his favour is that he is not a yes man, bought and paid for by the NWO elite.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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[Newsview]Rural police fear being 'sitting ducks'
« Reply #141 on: May 18, 2016, 01:00:05 AM »
Rural police fear being 'sitting ducks'

Rural police 'sitting ducks' in UK terror attack


    17 May 2016

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                    Armed police could be up to 70 miles away from a terrorist attack, the Police Federation says


Police officers in rural areas fear they would be "sitting ducks" in the event of a terrorist gun attack in the UK, a Police Federation chairman says.

A national shortage of armed officers could leave police in isolated areas "unarmed and vulnerable", John Apter, head of the Hampshire branch warned.

Figures revealed the number of firearms officers in England and Wales last year fell to its lowest level since 1987.

Home Secretary Theresa May will address the Police Federation conference later.

The federation, which represents constables, sergeants and inspectors in England and Wales, is holding its annual conference in Bournemouth.

Do police have firepower to tackle gun menace?

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's File on 4, Mr Apter said armed officers could be more than 70 miles away if an attack was launched in a rural location.

Some rural and coastal areas include potential terrorist targets - including energy and power plants.


Nuclear power plants in Britain are guarded by the Civil Nuclear Constabulary (CNC), whose officers are routinely armed, while firearms officers of the Ministry of Defence Police are responsible for facilities such as the Atomic Weapons Establishment at Aldermaston in Berkshire.

"Being realistic, if a firearms unit was coming from the middle of the county you are still talking about 30 miles away - you are not talking about a few minutes," he said.

"There would be an understandable delay.

"If a firearms unit is the other side of the county they could be 70 miles away so you are talking a significant distance.


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                    Oil refineries are among sensitive locations found in rural and coastal areas


"So the only officers that you have available are unarmed and vulnerable officers and they are the officers that are saying to me that in a terrorist situation they would be sitting ducks."

Last month, Prime Minister David Cameron announced money would be ring-fenced to boost the number of firearms officers in the UK, following terror attacks in Brussels and Paris.

However, federation chairman Steve White said the government's plan to train another 1,500 firearms officers to deal with the terror threat looked doubtful.

Officers are not volunteering to carry guns because they fear being "hung out to dry" and treated like a suspect if they discharge their weapon, he said.

The result was "worrying" inconsistencies in the service nationally, leaving some forces without firearms officers and reliant on neighbouring forces for coverage, Mr White added.

A national shortage of armed police was leaving the UK vulnerable to terror attacks, he warned.

The head of the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), which investigates fatal shootings by officers, said while firearms officers should not have impunity, they should also not be concerned by the watchdog's scrutiny.

In a statement, IPCC chair Dame Anne Owers warned "those within the police service" to be careful "about stoking such fears".

The IPCC had investigated 29 fatal shootings by police in the past 12 years, the statement added, and had only used its powers of arrest once.

No 'magic pot'

Che Donald, from the Police Federation, warned the recruitment drive could create a "gap" in the front line, as armed officers transferred from neighbourhood policing.

"There isn't a magic pot we can just dip into and pull out a fully trained firearms officer," he said.

CNC Deputy Chief Constable Simon Chesterman, the national lead on armed policing, said those concerns surrounding recruitment were starting to be tackled.

He told the BBC: "At the fairly early stages of this recruitment process we are seeing officers coming forward to put themselves in harm's way,

"At the moment this is not a crisis, but quite clearly, with some of the things going on in the background that are putting pressure on them, it could become one.

"At the moment, sufficient officers are stepping forward but we're watching and monitoring it very carefully."

Specialist teams

Police minister Mike Penning said the government had committed an additional £143m over the next five years to provide "a national uplift in armed policing capability".

Downing Street said police forces were recruiting more than 1,000 armed officers, setting up round-the-clock specialist teams outside London.

More than 40 police armed response vehicles will also be deployed.

"We will always ensure firearms officers are supported to take the difficult decisions necessary to protect the public," he said.

File on Four is broadcast on BBC Radio Four on Tuesday 17 May at 20:00 BST.


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« Reply #142 on: May 19, 2016, 01:07:46 AM »
Prison reform plans in Queen's Speech

Queen's Speech: New prison governor powers expected


    18 May 2016

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                Inside of a prison


"Unprecedented" new powers for prison governors in England and Wales will be outlined in the Queen's Speech later.

Billed as the biggest shake-up of the service since Victorian times, governors of six prisons will get control over budgets and daily regimes.

Critics say the changes fail to tackle overcrowding problems and suicide.

Measures on extremism, driverless cars and unmanned drones are also expected among the 21 bills as the government sets out its legislative agenda.

The Queen's Speech, which is expected shortly after 11:30 BST, is the centrepiece of the State Opening of Parliament, a tradition that can be traced back to 1536.

The government hopes the proposals will be approved over the next 12 months but critics believe the speech is being overshadowed by the upcoming EU referendum.

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  • Online and on mobile the BBC's politics live page will bring all the news footage and reaction as it happens

Mr Cameron has promised a "clear programme of social reform" in the measures to be announced.

Plans to replace the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights are expected to be mentioned, but with major detail on the plans yet to come.


Controversial plans to encourage schools to become academies, which were watered down following a Tory backlash, will reportedly feature, along with changes to the care and adoption system.

Writing in the Sunday Times earlier this month, Mr Cameron said the government would legislate to encourage permanent adoption - even if it meant children were not placed with relatives.


By Chris Mason, BBC political correspondent

This morning, for the 65th time of her reign, the Queen will read out the government's proposed new laws.

But as the sovereign's carriage is polished and the roads closed, this moment, so often a pivotal one in the political calendar, is instead an island of respite in an EU referendum campaign tearing the Conservative Party apart.

So for the prime minister, a chance to emphasise that his horizons extend beyond next month's vote. The emphasis: improving the life chances of the least fortunate; plans to improve social care and speed up adoption are expected, as is a shake-up of prisons in England and Wales.

Today, the Conservatives will seek to remind us about the range of ideas that won them last year's election. But it will also remind David Cameron that, with a slender majority, actually turning those ideas into laws won't be easy.

A former leader of the Commons, Lord Lansley, said he believed the speech was being overshadowed by the EU referendum.

He said it was creating "a very large uncertainty" for the parliamentary programme.

"If there were a Brexit vote, not immediately but certainly in the latter part of the parliament, we would be completely absorbed with trying to manage the legislative consequences of that which would be monstrous to think about," he said.


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                    Preparations have been taking place for the State Opening of Parliament in London


In the bill to be announced later, the governors of six jails will be given control over budgets, decide which rehabilitation and education services to use and be able to change the prison regime and the rules over family visits.

The prisons will be able to enter into contracts and to generate and retain income, the government said, adding that governors would be held accountable by "a new regime of transparency".

By the end of the year, 5,000 prisoners will be held in the first six "autonomous" prisons, which will be:

  • Wandsworth, south London

  • Holme House, Stockton-on-Tees

  • Ranby, Nottinghamshire

  • Coldingley, Woking

  • Kirklevington Grange, Cleveland

  • High Down, Sutton

Inspectors have warned that Ranby prison is at risk of being overwhelmed by the supply of so-called legal highs, and last month a prisoner was murdered at Coldingley.

The PM first outlined plans to give prison governors "complete control" over their prisons in February, saying it would reduce reoffending and allow prisoners to be treated as "potential assets to be harnessed".


Media captionLooking at the legislation to be announced at Wednesday's State Opening of Parliament.

Eoin McLennan-Murray, the former governor of Coldingley Prison in Surrey,  said autonomy was welcome.

But he told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme that change risked being "dwarfed" by the problems of overcrowding and the fact prison governors had no control over how many prisoners they had and for how long they were sentenced.

"The real issue is the size of the prison population, the length of time we keep people in prison for. Both of these things are beyond a governor's control," he said.

Richard Garside, director of the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies, described the changes as a "superficially attractive idea" but said it needed to be part of a nationwide policy.

"Prisons are incredibly overcrowded. Budgets have been cut by about a third since 2010, far fewer staff, far more inmates," he said.

"We're seeing this in the rise in suicides, self-harm and assaults."

'Festering' prisons

Outlining the plans, Mr Cameron said: "For too long, we have left our prisons to fester.

"Not only does that reinforce the cycle of crime, increasing the bills of social failure that taxpayers must pick up. It writes off thousands of people.

"So today, we start the long overdue, long-needed change that our prisons need. No longer will they be warehouses for criminals; they will now be places where lives are changed."

The government will also publish a review of education in prisons and announce pilot areas chosen for satellite tracking of offenders.

In February a contract to develop the system was cancelled after the government had already spent £21m on the project.


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« Reply #143 on: May 20, 2016, 01:00:10 AM »
BMA fears 'uphill struggle' to sell deal

BMA fears 'uphill struggle' to sell deal


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    19 May 2016

  • From the section Health



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                    Junior doctors have staged several strikes in the row over contracts


Junior doctors' leaders fear they could face an "uphill struggle" to convince the profession to accept the new contract agreed with ministers.

It was announced on Wednesday the two sides had reach a deal after eight days of talks at conciliation service Acas.

The deal will now be put to a vote of more than 40,000 BMA members in June.

But there are genuine fears at the union that the profession could reject the deal despite it believing it is the "best and final" way out of the row.

A host of NHS leaders have already come out to urge junior doctors sign up to it, but there has been some negative reaction on social media from frontline doctors.

The BMA has said it will be urging members to accept the terms and will be explaining why in a series of road shows with the profession in the coming weeks once the full contract is published.

Junior doctor deal: Which side has won?

The contract includes several major changes from the one which the government announced in February it would be imposing. These include:

  • The basic pay rise being reduced from 13.5% to between 10% and 11%

  • Weekends no longer being divided up between normal and unsocial hours, instead a system of supplements will be paid which depend on how many weekends a doctor works over the course of a year

  • Extra pay for night shifts being reduced from 50% to 37%

  • Extra support to be made available for doctors who take time out, such as women who go on maternity leave, to enable them to catch up on their training and thus qualify for pay rises - after claims women were being unfairly penalised

  • Junior doctors getting an enhanced role in advising and liaising with the independent guardians who keep an eye on the hours doctors work

BMA junior doctor leader Dr Johann Malawana said: "What has been agreed is a good deal for junior doctors and will ensure that they can continue to deliver high-quality care for patients."

But behind the scenes there is a concern the BMA may not be able to convince the profession and it could be an "uphill struggle" given the strength of feeling among the frontline.

There is also frustration at what the BMA sees as aggressive briefing from government following the announcement on Wednesday.

President of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health president Prof Neena Modi, who was one of the key leaders who convinced the two sides to get back talking, said she wanted to see a "positive outcome".

And Stephen Dalton, of the NHS Confederation, which represents health managers, said he was pleased an agreement was reached, adding "we very much hope" doctors support the new package.

Patients Association chief executive Katherine Murphy said: "We call on the BMA members to vote positively and accept the new agreement.

"There have been no winners in this ongoing dispute, instead it's patients who have been the losers."

Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt described it as a "good deal" for doctors, the government and patients.

Timeline of the dispute

December 2012 - The government invites the BMA for talks over new contract

October 2014 - BMA withdraws from talks

July 2015 - Independent pay review body publishes recommendations for a new contract

August 2015 - BMA refuses to re-enter talks

November 2015 - The government makes contract offer to junior doctors and BMA announces strikes

December 2015/January 2016 - Talks re-start at conciliation service Acas and strike for 1 December called off

January 2016 - First of four strikes, involving emergency cover being provided, is held

February 2016 - Ministers announce imposition of contract following second strike

April 2016 - First-ever all-out strike by doctors held in the history of the NHS

May 2016 - Talks restart after intervention by leaders at the royal colleges of medicine

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