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Offline francis drake

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2015, 07:33:34 PM »

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Part of your problem FD is that ... thou just doesn't understand what's happenin' ...

"Narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to
(eternal) life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:14)


Well, I won't need to pack magnifying glasses in with the NT I'm sendin' you.
But, I wish I could send along some spiritual insight.


Browner's done it again, added words to the scriptures to try and force his ideology down our throats.

Whatever people think of that verse, lets get this abundantly clear, the word eternal has been added to this verse by Browner to try and bend our understanding.

Do you think we can't see your persistent mangling of the scriptures you present. If you can't find scriptures to prove your point, just doctor them heh?

Hebrews7v24but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. 25Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. 26For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens;?

And to avoid confusion, here is the Greek for the word rendered above in English as "forever".

pantel?s: all complete, entire
Original Word: παντελής, ές
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: pantel?s
Phonetic Spelling: (pan-tel-ace')
Short Definition: complete, forever, entirely
Definition: complete, entire, perfect, through all time.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Offline Browner

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2015, 05:12:54 PM »
Browner's done it again, added words to the scriptures to try and force his ideology down our throats.

Whatever people think of that verse, lets get this abundantly clear, the word eternal has been added to this verse by Browner to try and bend our understanding.

"Narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to
(eternal) life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:14)

Sorry, got this verse a bit mixed up with several losing (eternal) life verses!

Meanwhile, how is the above verse talking about physical life?
Aaaaah, got it ... passing through the birth canal ... YES!
Thanks for pointing this out.
"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether
(slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, or
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?
... so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for (leading to) holiness." (Romans 6:16-19)

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Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 05:15:44 PM »
Your reply to the Hebrews Scripture presented is?

Glad you amended your post.

Offline BashfulAnthony

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2015, 09:08:59 PM »
Hi Anthony, thanks for joining in!
The OT was a foreshadowing of the NT.
The OT proved that man (with few exceptions) was incapable of pleasing God.
The OT promised a new and better covenant, leading to salvation for some.
The OT promised to send the Messiah.
The Messiah said He came to fulfill the Law and the prophets.
and etc.

Hi,

I've recently been reading the ideas of Marcion, who was very forthright in his views on the OT in particular.  Anybody au fait with his writngs?
BA

Offline Browner

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2015, 05:01:26 PM »
Those of you who are trying to reconcile the NT Scriptures, might want to consider these ...

"... narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to (eternal) life,
and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:14)

"And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.
For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and
count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it -- lest, after he has
laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him,
saying, 'This man began to build and was not able to finish' ... So likewise,
whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:27-33)

Again, so much for the easy believism and easy grace gospel.
"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether
(slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, or
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?
... so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for (leading to) holiness." (Romans 6:16-19)

Offline John

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2015, 08:13:39 PM »
Matt 7 v 14  But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. niv from biblegateway.

If you cannot quote the bible accurately your interpration is equally inaccurate.

These verses do not speak of how one is saved. There is no road we have to fnd, nor do we have to finance the building of a tower.

Rather it is about the consquences of following Jesus. The mere fact that there ae costs involved means there is no easy believism.

But at the same time, we do not earn, nor do we deserve or merit our salvation. It is a GIFT from God. If we are humble enough to accept it.

Offline Browner

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2015, 11:43:58 PM »
Matt 7 v 14  But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. niv from biblegateway.

If you cannot quote the bible accurately your interpration is equally inaccurate.

You prefer the Nearly Inspired Version ... okay, great ... good luck to you!

I suppose you haven't heard about how the Global Elite have been watering down the modern Bibles.
They haven't missed a trick.
When they finally (after all these years) get all of their little duckies in a perfect row ... Watch Out.

I tink I'm a-gonna call you "Lookout Johnnie".
"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether
(slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, or
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?
... so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for (leading to) holiness." (Romans 6:16-19)

Offline francis drake

Re: Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2015, 02:14:25 PM »
You prefer the Nearly Inspired Version ... okay, great ... good luck to you!

I suppose you haven't heard about how the Global Elite have been watering down the modern Bibles.
They haven't missed a trick.
When they finally (after all these years) get all of their little duckies in a perfect row ... Watch Out.

I tink I'm a-gonna call you "Lookout Johnnie".

Browner, John was rightly pointing out that you had posted the scripture inaccurately. You then obfuscate by retorting that he had quoted from a suspect translation, completely ignoring the fact that whatever translation he used would still expose your misuse of the scripture.

Here is what you posted. "... narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to (eternal) life,
and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:14)


Here is the NIV that John posted. Matt 7 v 14  But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Here is what the Greek literal translation from Strong's online concordance says. For small is the gate and compressed is the way leading to life and few are those finding it.

The difference between your's and both mine and John's is simply that you have added the word "eternal" which you know perfectly well is not found in the original.
If your theology cannot be supported without mangling scriptures, then it must surely be built on sand!
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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