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Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« on: November 15, 2015, 02:29:07 PM »

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There are many dire warnings in the NT that do not clearly and obviously,
and without any doubt whatsoever ... refer to losing eternal life.
A prime example is "the crown of life" passages.

"Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved,
he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
... But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown,
brings forth (eternal) death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren" (James 1:12-16)

Please note the 2 opposites above:
No sinning --> the crown of life ... vs ... Sinning --> eternal death!
"The believer who perseveres will receive the crown of life. The 'crown of life' is the crown of
victory over sin, or the crown of victory in our life's race. The main meaning of the crown of life
is salvation, or eternal life."
(The Applied New Testament Commentary -- Thomas Hale, 1996, ChariotVictor Publishing)

Dr. Hale is a Spirit-filled believer who served as a medical missionary with Interserve in Nepal.

"Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death." (Revelation 2:10-11)

Please note the 2 opposites above:
Being faithful until death --> the crown of life ... vs ... Not overcoming --> eternal death!
"Above all, the church at Smyrna needed encouragement and strength to endure persecution.
If they remained firm to the end ... to the point of death ... they would receive the crown of life,
that is, eternal life (see Mark 13:13, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Pet 5:4) ... The second death mentioned here
means eternal death; it is the final punishment for all evildoers."
(The Applied New Testament Commentary -- Thomas Hale, 1996, ChariotVictor Publishing)


"He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers,
idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire
and brimstone, which is the second death." (Revelation 21:7-8)

"And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures (in his faith)
to the end (of his life) shall be saved." (Mark 13:13)

Confirmations: 1 Cor 16:13, Gal 5:1, Phil 4:1, Col 1:22-23, Heb 10:35-36, James 5:7-8, 1 Pet 5:9
"Here the words 'to the end' do not mean 'to the end of the world'. They mean to 'stand firm
unto death', to stand firm completely, to stand firm no matter what persecution comes upon us.
To 'stand firm' means to stand firm in faith. Those who stand firm in the faith will be saved.
Those who do not stand frim in the faith will not be saved. ... Let us not be like the seed
planted on rocky soil that withered and died as soon as the sun came out. Those who
endure for a while and then fall away have believed in vain (see Mark 4:16-17)."
(The Applied New Testament Commentary -- Thomas Hale, 1996, ChariotVictor Publishing)

Here's that "falling away" from the faith again ... unto eternal death.

Running "the race of life" faithfully with endurance --> the imperishable crown of righteousness:
"... I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Finally, there is
laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to
me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing." (2 Tim 4:7-8)
"... Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in
such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate
in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown.
Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air.
But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others,
I myself should become disqualified." (1 Corinthians 9:24-27)
"... The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the
sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed ... and when the Chief
Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away." (1 Peter 5:1,4)
"...  let us lay aside every weight and the sin which so easily ensnares us,
and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us ..." (Hebrews 12:1)
"... lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain." (Galatians 2:2)
"... he is not crowned unless he competes according to the rules." (2 Timothy 2:5)
"... Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. He who overcomes ..."
(Revelation 3:11-12)


Please notice there are NO crowns (plural) mentioned anywhere above. No different crowns
of varying values ... re: rewards. When it comes to the crown of eternal life, there is only one!


"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether
(slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, or
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?
... so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for (leading to) holiness." (Romans 6:16-19)

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Offline davetaff

Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2015, 03:42:04 PM »
Hi Browner
Did you know that in the KJV the words eternal death do not appear anywhere where did you find them the other thing I noticed in your post was There did not seam to be much about love in it

1Pe 4:8   Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Browner

Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2015, 03:46:56 PM »
When I post God's dire warnings, which people don't want to see and accept, etc.
... I always receive all kinds of complaints, rationalizations, excuses, etc.
And I see this as a terrible shame!

On Judgment Day, Jesus will have to say to many, "But, I warned you!"
"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether
(slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, or
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?
... so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for (leading to) holiness." (Romans 6:16-19)

Serenity

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Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2015, 03:48:57 PM »
Like you always avoid and dodge what people present to you because you know it is true.

Again, 1Cor13 ... clanging gong without Love, you shouldn't 'present' anything without it.

Offline francis drake

Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2015, 08:21:16 PM »
There are many dire warnings in the NT that do not clearly and obviously,
and without any doubt whatsoever ... refer to losing eternal life.
A prime example is "the crown of life" passages.

"Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved,
he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
... But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown,
brings forth (eternal) death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren" (James 1:12-16)

Please note the 2 opposites above:
No sinning --> the crown of life ... vs ... Sinning --> eternal death!
"The believer who perseveres will receive the crown of life. The 'crown of life' is the crown of
victory over sin, or the crown of victory in our life's race. The main meaning of the crown of life
is salvation, or eternal life."

Just for complete clarity of mind, everyone should read the above words with discernment.
He insists that eternal life is conditional on each of us living perfect sin free lives.
He also insists that failure leads to eternal death!

Lets make something else perfectly clear. Anyone who can live a sin free life, does not need forgiveness, does not need grace, does not need Jesus.

Very sadly, Browner, you are preaching the "different gospel" that Paul condemns in Galatians.


What does Paul say
Galatians1v6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel? 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be accursed! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be accursed!


Paul says all who teach that perfection comes from following the Law are accursed. Whether its the Law of Moses, the law of the land, the laws of the Methodists, or Anglicans, every such effort at self perfection is a stench in God's nostrils and puts that person outside of God's free Grace.

Paul had spent his whole adult life as a Pharisee preaching righteousness by sticking to rules. After meeting Jesus, Paul abandons all his self righteousness because he knows it stinks before the throne of God.
Galatians3v1
You foolish Galatians!

Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3Are you so foolish? Having begun in the the Spirit, are you now made perfect by the flesh?


Brothers and sisters on this forum, having begun in the Holy Spirit, are we going to let someone deceive us into perfection by the flesh? Its surely far better to trust the finished work of Jesus?


4Have you experienced so much in vain?if it really was in vain? 5So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6So also Abraham ?believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.?
7....8....9....
10For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: ?Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.?


Read that again. Anyone relying on works, puts themselves under the curse of fulfilling every last jot of the law.

11Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because ?the righteous will live by faith.? 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, ?The person who does these things will live by them.?

The Law is not of faith!
ie. anyone attempting to make himself righteous by obeying laws, automatically negates God's free gift of righteousness. Even unregenerate people can follow a rule book!


13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: ?Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.?h 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.


To try and prove or maintain righteousness through perfecting your behaviour, is simply self righteousness! It stinks.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline francis drake

Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2015, 08:21:36 PM »

I rejected self perfection decades ago and have since lived in the overwhelming secure presence of Father God, wholly dependent on Christ's righteousness and not mine.
Faith in Christ alone enables me to make the following Galatians based affirmations. I invite anyone else who rejects perfectionism to put their name in place of mine.-
Galatians2v19?For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.

I, Francis Drake, (put your own name here) died to the law so that I might live for God.
I, Francis Drake,  have also been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.

20.The life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

The life that I, Francis Drake, now live in this human body, I live by faith and complete trust in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

21I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!?


I Francis Drake refuse to set aside the all encompassing grace of God.
I Francis Drake, fully understand that if my righteousness could be obtained by any goodness on my part, then Christ would have died for nothing.

I am already a dead man.
I was sentenced to death when Adam made that fateful choice.
I ran to God for mercy and he placed me on that cross, hidden in Christ.
I died when Jesus died.
I rose when Jesus rose.
I remain for eternity hidden in Christ, and all my righteousness for eternity is purely that of Christ. Of myself, I have none and will not boast of such.


And finally, when I refrain from sinning, it is not to save myself from eternal death. I refrain from sin because it breaks the fellowship I have with the lover of my soul, Jesus. It allows demons to enter that part of my life, and brings wreckage upon me and my loved ones.
It does not remove my name from the Lamb's book of life.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Browner

Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 04:01:14 PM »
You people are choosing to reject more than 100 warnings,
which God has given in the NT to believers in the churches.
Jesus gave His warnings to everyone (since there were no churches).

Warnings, Warnings, Warnings ... and apparently you don't see them!

Since 2013, I have felt led to warn about these warnings in the NT.
Then last week, I read where Billy Graham in 2013 felt led
to write a book about the false gospel of "Easy Believism".
"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether
(slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, or
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?
... so now present your members as
slaves of righteousness for (leading to) holiness." (Romans 6:16-19)

Offline John

Re: Understanding "the crown of life" is critically important!
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 04:28:25 PM »
What does your minister/vicar/priest think of your warning messages?
How do the people in your church react to these warning messages.

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