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Serenity

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Mansion/church/temple
« on: October 24, 2015, 01:03:56 AM »


Why did they always go out in 2's?



TJ

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2015, 03:48:31 AM »
Yes what is missing in Chch  ?

I suppose two are better than One ?

But then three would have been better  than two  ?

Matthew 18:20 ?For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.?

Otherwise Jesus would not be among  them ?

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 08:29:39 AM »
Yeah but there is always a 3 where there is a 2, like a 'cord that wont be broken'.

If God has sanctioned/ordered/ordained something then God is with the 2. 

Even if there is a 1 there is always 2 in that scenario. 

If God is in the mix then the amount or numbers of people are irrelevant I would think, you get what you need.

I am both my own church (temple, singular) and a part of the corporate church (everyone).

Imagine what all these temples look like to God.  I mean scripture says God is preparing a mansion, is that different to temple? is the preparing what is going on now or do we think God is only doing that preparing in the heavenlies?

mansions/temples/churches....all grand affairs, all buildings....are they all separate or the same, and if different, how?

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 09:31:15 AM »
The assumption taken these are not physical rock built temples.

Maybe that is the temple itself, the Rock, the Bible refers to Jesus as the Rock, Him being the Cornerstone. 

That through Him ALL things were made, so the Rock is a part of the fabric of all these things?

Weaved through all these buildings, is there any other kind of 'building'?

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Re: Mansion/church/temple
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 11:08:18 PM »
It must have been for companionship that Jesus sent them out two by two

Mark 6:7  Calling the Twelve to him, he began to send them out two by two and gave them authority over impure spirits.


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Matthew 10:5
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.


Why might this have been so at this time ? when salvation was always for everyone ?


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Matthew 10:9
"Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts--


Luke 9:3
He told them: "Take nothing for the journey--no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra shirt.


Interesting here that they were to copy the Master with no where to lay their heads  -

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 06:25:52 PM »
Well then it would be full submission and trust in God to do that, and in what they were being instructed to do.

What is a Gentile, what is a Samaritan, what do they represent?

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2015, 01:09:57 AM »
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Well then it would be full submission and trust in God to do that, and in what they were being instructed to do.

What is a Gentile, what is a Samaritan, what do they represent?


Well the Samaritans were half Jew and half Gentile, whereas the gentiles were not Jews, they are the gentile nations such
as the greeks.

Jews were to avoid intermixing and intermarrying [doing as they do] we see this teaching all through the bible where they
were not to be unequally yoked ?  Jeremiah 10:2 NIV - Joshua 23:7  

It was the "yeast" of the other nations  - Leviticus 18:3; You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not
do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices.



This is the meaning of Matthew 10:5
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.
it was not the timing of God for them to venture outside


Now notice that Jesus went through Samaria John 4:4; and in Luke 9:51 As the time approached for him to be taken up to
heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. 52 And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to
get things ready for him; 53 but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. 54 When the
disciples James and John saw this, they asked, ?Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them  ?

CUSTOM

So the instructions were based on what the Jewish Apostles/disciples had already been taught and it was their custom.

This does not mean that Jesus salvation only began at a certain time in history for "other nations"

It means that these certain "disciples" were sent out first to their own people and then to the world [nations/gentiles/samaritans]

At this point you might refer to the flood [of the earth] or was it only based within the Jewish nation ?] as I have never
seen anyone referring to the flood as just localized to Jerusalem ?.



FEEDING[/b]

Now notice the feeding of the four thousand and the feeding of the five thousand are defined by there regions, the 5000
was in a Jewish area and the 4000 in a Gentile area.

The five loafs symbolizing the pentetuech - the first five books of the bible and the twelve baskets / tribes.

Seven loafs are perfection when both Gentile and Jew are together [In Him] and here we see another shadow/type/symbol/


ADAM AND EVE


So lets finish by asking "were Adam and Eve Jews ? - or gentiles ?

They were given authority and commissioned  to name the animals -  Now reflect on

Acts 10:11: 11and he saw the sky opened up, and an object like a great sheet coming down, lowered by four corners to the ground, 12and there were in it all kinds of four-footed animals and crawling creatures of the earth and birds of the air.






TJ

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Re: Mansion/church/temple
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2015, 02:18:35 PM »
Which takes us back to "two by two"

In a way even Adam and Eve witnessed and were part of preaching the gospel [without them we could never be saved]