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MrLukeH92

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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 12:14:28 AM »

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haha I never said you shouldn't do what your bosses say of course you've got to work for your money.. I ment you shouldn't pray to your bosses as Gods or treat them as Gods or put your bosses and work before God, that's very reasonable.

I am doing im not on dole anymore however I haven't got a job im just applying for jobs and hoping I get one ive got plenty of call backs so its looking promising I might get one soon.

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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 12:44:56 AM »
One of my past managers had the God complex.  He often come into the office and say things like...I am God, i'm God round here.  One day I took particular exception to this...and replied much to the shock of the other girls...I told him he was no God of mine..he wasn't best pleased but what could he say, I was right!

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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 01:26:50 AM »
One of my past managers had the God complex.  He often come into the office and say things like...I am God, i'm God round here.  One day I took particular exception to this...and replied much to the shock of the other girls...I told him he was no God of mine..he wasn't best pleased but what could he say, I was right!

hell as no fury like a woman scorned :)

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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 01:37:03 AM »
Mr Luke, I presume you are receiving benefits of some sort? As you obviously trust God for his provision, why not give up those unnecessary benefits and show that trust by waiting for God instead.

also francis do you not trust that GOD will PROVIDE

TJ

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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 01:48:33 AM »
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As you obviously trust God for his provision, why not give up those unnecessary benefits and show that trust by waiting for God instead.


At the beginning of my blind faith journey into what I now see as God's direction about my career - I had months when I had to sign on...

I did not see this as any big deal...[its like saying "come off drugs God will heal you]  however God also provides through doctors and nurses - judges and lawyers - accountants and state resources.....

After 3months I was able to come off benefits : see my testimony @ http://www.1faith.co.uk/testimonies/guardians-revised-testimony/  [if you cannot see it join the testimony group]

Here I disagree with francis


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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2015, 09:45:26 AM »
What jobs would I be willing to do? Anything really. But it does need to pay the bills. I work in computers at the moment, and that's all I've really done for the rest of my life.

Technology just seems like a soulless thing to me that I just can't get passionate about anymore. There's too much marketing, hype, management, and glitz. Look at Apple for example.

Sunday may be pagan in origin and not truly the sabbath. But traditionally in the western church, it is still one day a week when Christians can get together in corporate worship and fellowship with one another. We tend not to do that too much anymore and I say that part of that reason is actually because we have a wrong attitude towards work, and we are in the live to work mentality. Or at least we put God, and Worship, and Fellowship so far down the rank in our priority list, it just grieves me. I also consider that shift work and irregular working patterns has caused society to fragment somewhat. I think society needs a collective day of rest. Sure that can't happen for essential services, but I also think we've expanded the definition of "essential services" to include shopping, and TV, and radio, and news, car hire, transport etc.

My attitude towards work is that you pay me a fair wage for the job I do. But while it's not fair for me to not do what Im paid for, neither would it be particularly fair for you to demand more of me than you pay me for. You may have been a great employer, but it just seems sadly now, many employers now own you and can just demand whatever they want of you.

There are some people who will take the "slaves submit to your masters" without addressing two other factors.

Firstly, like the wives submit to your husbands, there's also the other bit, masters and husbands, should also respect and treat their slaves and wives well. It is a reciprocal thing.

I don't know exactly what Paul says when this yoke is unequal, when one side has more power than it should.

Secondly, the one thing that seems obvious to me, is that slaves don't exactly have a choice. Employees - though it sometimes feels like we don't, we do actually have a choice. We can change things. We can change our attitudes, we can change our jobs, we can do something else. The attitude that we should follow the advice of "slaves submit to your masters" and accept every bit of mistreatment thrown at you, speaks to me of martyrdom.

This is still one of those conundrums I still haven't wrapped my head around. But I've been told that in the absence of God calling me one way or the other, I should continue to subject myself to work. There are a few things I do during the week, so I will cancel some of those, like the Bible Study, so I have more time to do what my work demands of me as I subject myself to my master.

Chances are these same people who told me to subject myself, will find a way to backtrack on what they said.

TJ

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Re: Slaves, submit to your masters. No one can serve two masters.
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2016, 01:18:43 AM »
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I don't know exactly what Paul says when this yoke is unequal, when one side has more power than it should.

The submission is through a person to God [God must be the Head first]

Don't you think it  would be foolish to submit to an authority   opposing God  ?

Moreso a wife  that tells me to worship satan ?

If I submit to one who has placed themselves higher than God - then .....  @HalfFullGuy

Its an interesting topic


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