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MrLukeH92

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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2015, 01:20:50 AM »

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they should bring that back might learn kids to have some manners and respect again these days for people and peoples property ahah, at my school kids used to walk all over the teachers and nobody could learn because of all the trouble causers and nobody could do anything about it because your the one that will end up getting done for it.

everything is upside down inside out these days no justice. and no common sense

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TJ

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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2015, 02:01:55 AM »
Well that depends ....

Corporal punishment is ok if it's delivered with Justice ....

I began senior school with a full "P.E KIT" ..however after two years I was in trouble.

I no longer had a PE KIT and so I was faced with being driven out into the wilderness by the games teacher and being
left  : see : http://www.1faith.co.uk/hot-topics-news-view/corporal-punishment/msg36523/#msg36523

The other option was to being sent to the headmaster to get the cane OR i could "bunk off"[it was not my fault - how could I provide myself with a games kit ?]

After a while the only option for me was to "skive off" school - which then included other lessons......

The reason being that "I was seen as disruptive and was put into "help classes" and again see: the above link.

I spent the last four years of my schooling "being bored out of my skull"

That kind of schooling works if you fit into the "broad spectrum" of the general population and everyone is tarred with
the same brush .


In some ways "I would like to live under the ofsted inspections"  and "political dabling" where that kind of thing can no longer occur

Having said that "the wife I married left teaching because of recent years  - ofsted interference and political interference ....

The one left me with a bad childhood - while the latter  left me with more responsibility in my older years [as my wife does not earn so much now


seems I cannot win



Corporal punishment works if Parents are likened to the glossy magazines where "they are all the same"

As soon as you drift out of this spectrum you are in trouble - believe me

In a way I am thankful for my parents -  as they led me to God

Now lets go back even further to the old edwardian schooling  and the fag masters



We have advanced but we still have a long way to go with education..

I believe schooling in the future will be via brain tuition - being plugged into a machine and having data transferred

It sounds hilarious - but it saves a lot of money and time - just think of the savings ....

That is where the world is going



http://www.1faith.co.uk/hot-topics-news-view/corporal-punishment/msg36523/#msg36523

TJ

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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2015, 02:22:57 AM »
So what I am saying @MrLukeH92 is that...

In times gone by [In this country] punishment was a mishmash of punishments

It was more like seeing all children as the same with parents all being the same [much like the glossy magazines like to portray the "average family" with the painting of the same brush.

I think now you much much more accountability and maybe schooling is far more effective in many ways and aimed at the positive

Having said that "there needs to be balance ?

what do you think ............"

MrLukeH92

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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2015, 10:55:54 AM »
yeah agree, what they needs to be is some common sense around it. It wasn't your fault for you not having a PE kit, so in these times schools should help to buy for uniforms and kits. you hear it on news parents not been able to afford schools uniforms but the schools don't help.

definitely dont deserve the cane for not being able to have a PE kit

and yeah they needs to be balance id say the punishment should fit the crime.Also teachers cant touch kids without been called pedos or something sooo teachers should be able to like drag kids out of class rooms and stuff like that if they refuse to move and they disturbing it for everyone else. Teachers shouldn't be allowed to hit them or anything though

 

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2015, 09:55:44 AM »
Also teachers cant touch kids without been called pedos or something sooo teachers should be able to like drag kids out of class rooms and stuff like that if they refuse to move and they disturbing it for everyone else. Teachers shouldn't be allowed to hit them or anything though

Well I know plenty of cases where teachers are physically abusing children - it still goes on now - whether allowed or not. I even viewed one teacher drag my son across a classroom and into a table. I don't think she intentionally pulled him into the table, she was in a bad mood and unfortunately my son felt the brunt of such. This was when he was about 5 or 6.

Places that are meant to care for vulnerable children sadly do not always and I have sadly come across that too :sad:.

MrLukeH92

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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2015, 12:02:59 AM »
yeah I see what you mean, im talking more about teenage kids in secondary schools who could defend themselves.

Teachers and carers should know better than to do that to 5 or 6 yr old if that was my kid I would have probably gone mad and most probably took my kids out of that school. Because I wouldn't be able to trust the teachers.

im fed up seeing on news and stuff about vulnerable people, old people, and kids been abused by they so called ''carers'' if they don't like the job they do they should leave it.


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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2015, 04:49:10 PM »
Teachers and carers should know better than to do that to 5 or 6 yr old if that was my kid I would have probably gone mad and most probably took my kids out of that school. Because I wouldn't be able to trust the teachers.

im fed up seeing on news and stuff about vulnerable people, old people, and kids been abused by they so called ''carers'' if they don't like the job they do they should leave it.

I did take him out of that school for a week, until I could talk to the headmistress about it. Unfortunately it was my word against the teachers, despite having an eye witness (another adult, that sadly was too scared to come forward in-case she lost her position at the school - sigh). Bet you can guess who the head mistress sided with :rolleyes:. Also it is against the law for me to pull my son out of a school without a valid reason. Fortunately he did not stay at that school too much longer.

I do agree with you regarding people should leave the job if they don't like it - sadly something I have noticed is a lot of caring type jobs are low paid and sadly attract a lot of people that do not care  :sad:. Don't get me wrong - not everyone in caring jobs are uncaring, cause I know of plenty that are caring, but sadly there are quite a few that don't care too.

MrLukeH92

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Re: Bad Education
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2015, 02:53:37 AM »
Yeah its typical, when I was a kid at school the teacher lost my book and blamed me for it and started a massive argument with me i had to go into detention wasn't even my fault. The next day in class SHE GAVE ME my book back she didn't even apologise. But she knew she was in the wrong. My dad complained to the school and the headmistress took the teachers side aswell.

and to be honest if you believe your kid is been bullied or abused by the teachers than as far as im concerned you'd have every right to take your kids out of school because you cant trust the teachers ESPECIALLY if the head teacher isn't taking your side. So its justified, forget what the law says, You gotta protect your family :).

and yes i also know good people who are carers and work very hard, but the money is rubbish for the hard work that they do.

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