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Offline Guardian

Faith-Q - Spare the rod and spoil the child ? is t
« on: February 24, 2015, 01:08:15 AM »
Spare the rod and spoil the child ? is t

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TJ

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Re: Faith-Q - Spare the rod and spoil the child ? is t
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 01:40:07 AM »
My childhood experience was not one I would like to go back to

I know the fear that can be instilled into a child - from parental and from schooling

I do not believe education and punishment should be identified together as neither should authority and punishment-  [note capital punishment]

I'm from the "old school" and knew what the cain was and how a dad "coming back from the pub "could hit you with the buckle end of a belt"

I cannot say "it taught me anything" all it did was to associated fear with authority and learning/schooling with punishment

Having said that "neither do I believe in  Sparing the rod"

I do not believe Father God wants "spoilt children"

Here's your chance to "give your view"






Offline Rose Anna

Re: Faith-Q - Spare the rod and spoil the child ? is t
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 09:49:22 AM »
It's needs the fair balance, but the problem with human beings is that they are often imbalanced and lots of  discipline has been misapplied,  therefore it can very much be abused. While another child  gets away with so much and gets spoilt rotten.  Discipline   doesn't need to involve  the rod.  Yet  sometimes behaviour doesn't respond,  and may need that.  As long as the child is loved and knows the behaviour is rejected but not them as a person, and knows it because of love, that the parent wants the best for them. Only it must be fair and it's not always when temper and misunderstandings get in the way. Certainly not when parents call abuse" discipline."   Many children can genuinely be abused. Or it could be the other way round nowadays, they can push things and call discipline "abuse. "

Serenity

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Re: Faith-Q - Spare the rod and spoil the child ? is t
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 06:25:45 PM »
This can and is a difficult subject to discuss really.  I agree with Primrose, it needs to be a balanced response from the parent to the child.  Do all misdemeanours require a physical punishment, let alone a beating? beatings I disagree with, a quick check is something different.  I utilise our 'naughty step' with wee one, a minute for each year of age, so at moment she is on there 4 mins at a time...but you don't just stick them on there.  Putting them there, explaining why and for how long...then need closure at the end, asking if they understand why they was put there, the child apologising, adult reassuring of love for the child and a cuddle, then off we go...I have found at the earlier stages anyway, this is a far better method than slapping, beating or any other physical assault on the child.

Then you have my niece for example, when she was in her teens, thought it was acceptable for her to do and say anything she pleased pretty much, then when challenged by the behaviour, would say 'im going to ring childline'...well giving her the 20p to go phonebox to do it, seemed to do trick in shutting that one up, as the bluff was called. 

Its a hard world we live in, even harder now than when I was a child.  Kids today don't seem to understand respect half of time let alone how to behave.  My son doesn't understand why even at his ripe ole age of 17 it isn't acceptable to swear in front of me....I told him when I was a kid, we wouldn't dare/dream of doing that in front of our parents, and that wasn't because we were regularly beaten, but because we have more respect!  ohh but his friends do it....if they jumped off end of a pier would you? nope so don't use that logic either.

To slap or not to slap that is the question...to use a weapon? nope I don't think its ever acceptable to use a weapon.

Offline John

Re: Faith-Q - Spare the rod and spoil the child ? is t
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 11:31:42 AM »
Different periods have used different methods of discipline. What ever method is used it has to be consitent and the reason for the discipline has to be explained.
My wife worked as a nanny, when I was courting her, and she would adopt what ever method the parents wanted. She only smacked one child. That child, suddenly ran out into the road. She managed to grab him before he was run over and smacked him, saying 'Don't you ever run into the road!' That smack was driven by the fear of the consquences of not having caught him. But he never ran into the road while he was with her. ( yes she also told the parent.)
Going on with this subject. What I fear is that the 'do-gooders' who dispise marriage are seeking to remove from parents the right to raise their children the way they want to. If these 'do-goders' realy had childrens welfare at heart then they would be promoting mariage, opposing divorce and sex outside of marriage and tackling child crulty where ever it was found.

The fcts are that children do best when raised by there parents, or by a couple they see as parents. Children in single parent homes do far worse, are generally poorer, see far more violence and are subject to more child abuse then those with both parents.