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TJ

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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2015, 02:35:59 AM »

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Did Christ go to Hell ?

The answer is, No He did not, as is made clear in the verse below.

Jhn 19:30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit. 

Everything that Jesus had to do to save us was, "finished", before He died, the following verses are sometimes used to teach that Jesus went to Hell after His death.

1Pe 3:18   For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us[fn5] to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit,
1Pe 3:19   by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,
1Pe 3:20   who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited[fn6] in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.
 
All this passage is telling us is that it was the Holy Spirit speaking through Noah, while the ark was being prepared, that preached to people alive at that time, who did not repent, and whose spirits are now in prison
 
Jesus said,  "into Your hands I commit My spirit ", Note:   Not, "into hell", but,  "into Your hands".

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, "Father, 'into Your hands I commit My spirit.' " Having said this, He breathed His last. 

Also,  "You will not abandon my soul to Sheol".  Notice it is "to hell", not, "in hell"  In other words, "I won't be going there"

NASB - Psa 16:10 - For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.

RSV - Psa 16:10 - For thou dost not give me up to Sheol, or let thy godly one see the Pit.

ASV - Psa 16:10 - For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol; Neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption

ESV - Psa 16:10 - For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol,
or let your holy one see corruption.*

Footnote:
* Or see the pit

ESV - Act 2:27 - ??For you will not abandon my soul to Hades,
or let your Holy One see corruption.

NASB - Act 2:27 - BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ABANDON MY SOUL TO HADES, NOR ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE TO UNDERGO DECAY.

RSV - Act 2:27 - For thou wilt not abandon my soul to Hades, nor let thy Holy One see corruption.

Every blessing.

Edwin.

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so true

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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2015, 11:13:46 AM »
Bear with this post because it may or may not be accurate.  Just searching for the truth really.  Maybe we won't know yet.

I find this a very curious passage about Jesus, proclaiming to the spirits in prison. In the past I spoke to a well known branch that is known as a christian cult,who also have there own extended bible . With lots of things that are really  not true. There may have been a lot not true but sometimes there are areas of truth. Within a false system there can be some truths.

They said that the spirits heard the gospel . Like more chance .Yet many quote that  scripture  we are appointed once to die and then there is judgement.  Yes but that can also be about rewards and losses, although the person has salvation. God is not slow but long suffering not wanting any to perish but wanting all to come to repentance  . All?  If  multitudes have already  died.
I think though there will be those who refuse the gospel like the pharisees did, and death becomes complete death. Yet a great many more  still may also accept.
Just questioning not saying I'm right or wrong.


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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2015, 01:24:56 PM »
Interesting that the Holy Spirit can impregnate death and preach ? [being neuter and preaching to neuter souls]

I suppose if we could write our own gospel [which we do with God working through us] God might write of us......

@TJ's  "I came down into death and resurrected you - My Holy Spirit spoke into your inmost being and preached to your unsaved soul"

Obviously the gospel we write in our life's and maybe would be told about us - could not be mistranslated or misinterpreted !

As only mankind/neuter can do that - and God never misinterprets or makes mistakes

Offline Rose Anna

Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2015, 02:47:52 PM »
I remember a woman talking to me and she was nursing.  She said a man was dying and asking to be with God, or words to that effect. She  wrongly said " oh dear you've left it a bit late. "I think he was an atheist.  He was very distressed but she held his hand.

Then he died and he was dead. She called in another nurse and he was dead. She was just about to leave the room, when the man briefly came back to life. In a quivering voice he cried out some sort of prayer that related to salvation in Christ. Then really  died.

It just made me think that on the other side, where we are away from our body, we are probably more in touch with God. Only that was a testimony to her that it's not too late on the death bed, and possibly after death.

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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2015, 03:17:15 PM »
To me that's a lesson in 'your words have the power of life and death'..........watch what you say, whom to, why and where.

TJ

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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2015, 01:36:16 AM »
As I worked today - I had these things running through me.....


"How we are now living in the Acts 2015 and how the bible is continuing to be written

It occurred to me how how many situations I had been through were not  exactly as described in "[wiki]God's Word[/wiki]"...

"How many times I had seen the  Korah "[wiki]Rebellion[/wiki]" Numbers 16:1-3; re enacted in the life of the "Churches" I have been a member of...

And how the ground did not swallow them up and how these un enabled leaders had taken control..

Yes they had many followers and yes they looked great and maybe by some "sounded great" but their reign did not last..

They said "all the right things and did as they were expected to do but they were not [wiki]God[/wiki] appointed"....

It brought to my attention - that "Not all things happen as they are described in "God's Word" and how "We  like to put things into categories and boxes and keep strictly to "The Bible".....

But it's not  like that ...............is it ?

@Primrose

I remember a woman talking to me and she was nursing.  She said a man was dying and asking to be with God, or words to that effect. She  wrongly said " oh dear you've left it a bit late. "I think he was an atheist.  He was very distressed but she held his hand.

Then he died and he was dead. She called in another nurse and he was dead. She was just about to leave the room, when the man briefly came back to life. In a quivering voice he cried out some sort of prayer that related to salvation in Christ. Then really  died.

It just made me think that on the other side, where we are away from our body, we are probably more in touch with God. Only that was a testimony to her that it's not too late on the death bed, and possibly after death.


Now we see in part but then we shall see as we are known


Can't remember where that scripture is ?  but God knows where it is !



TJ

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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2015, 02:00:25 AM »
The bible as we know it was only meant to be guidance, it is meant to be a tool where in we can know the right way, it gives a signpost and direction, its good for teaching and correction, for instruction 2 Timothy 3:16; 

However the "Word is good for" telling us what to do on a daily basis as we listen to Him" outside of the written word....

Its a 96% super void  -  in which we know the Truth and this sets us free...The Truth is in Jesus ...yet this Truth is only bound to what we can see at any one time and our human limitations 

Not all want to know the real Truth and that includes "Christians"  as we can be quite happy as we are








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Re: Did Christ go to Hell ?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2015, 09:56:50 AM »

1 Corinthians 13

12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.


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