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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2015, 09:03:59 AM »

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Psalm 127:1

'Unless the Lord builds the house,
    the builders labor in vain.
Unless the Lord watches over the city,
    the guards stand watch in vain.'

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2015, 08:49:18 PM »
Psalm 127:1

'Unless the Lord builds the house,
    the builders labor in vain.
Unless the Lord watches over the city,
    the guards stand watch in vain.'

This is true...reminds me of http://www.1faith.co.uk/community_hall/is-this-for-you/  .... Re: Is this for you ?

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http://www.1faith.co.uk/community_hall/is-this-for-you/

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2015, 08:39:23 AM »
This is true...reminds me of http://www.1faith.co.uk/community_hall/is-this-for-you/  .... Re: Is this for you ?

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Well I would have looked at the above link - but computer says 'no' - basically it says it is either missing or off limits for me (sigh).
http://www.1faith.co.uk/community_hall/is-this-for-you/

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2015, 09:24:47 AM »
I have consulted and left it with the site's tech oracle aka guardy!  I learnt my place messing with behind the scenes red wires<<<<is allergic to tech!

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2015, 11:53:41 AM »
Until that's sorted though I will copy n paste across what I was linking to..the wall, jigsaw etc

Its like everything you try to do is coming up against a wall ? and this is what God is using to mould you and shape you,
to make you ready for the right time !

Remember that God has given you this desire within and this desire is born of God

I have a very clear and defined picture /vision of a stone wall which has been built by a farmer and this wall has one stone
on top that is significant - in that the one stone is you and its yet to be placed

God is waiting for this stone to be moulded and shaped before He places it !

Its a very clear picture /vision here as real or more real than life in which I can see the rain coming down and the
reflection of the light reflecting on it, this one stone is waiting for the farmer to cut it so that it will fit into
that wall - it that as yet has no place to lay its  a picture of a stone yes one single stone on top of a wall = a misplaced stone
that seems to be different...

In the second part of the vision you are struggling with this desire within that as been given to you by God and yet you are frustrated because
you cannot see the the way ahead

This wall is a wall that has been built by God and each part is placed in such a way that each stone has a purpose...

Its a unique ministry that God will lead you into in that the beginning will be full  of pushing away and rebounds in which it will seem
as of the very things that God is leading you to is pushing you away

But its a unique ministry in  which this wall being seen at first as bound together is actually loose stone and only
standing because each stone is placed there by God in a unique position....

Each stone is placed in a particular way in that it holds up the stones above and each stone supports the former

It is a very special wall to God and one that He will build - and in this is where you you find your fulfillment

At this time although you will not feel as though all things are working out - even so God will do His work and
although you may not feel as though all things are not working out  - God will work and do amazing things

After this second sequence in time and after more time and at the right time and further on into the future of your life - I believe God is showing a place and a time when there will be  a great working of God and much activity in spiritual places workng around you [although
you may not be aware of it]

God is showing a great disturbance in spiritual places in and around you at this time and in many years to come ,

And in this activity God will use you beyond your expectations -  and at this time you will experience exhaustion and
weariness

I see a wind of the Holy Spirit in your life and at this time much seed will be blown around effecting many lifes
and bringing many to a deeper faith

Wait upon the Lord and He will do this - you are that stone on top of that wall waiting to be placed in the correct position -
but this will only happen in the Lords time and in His way until that time you must wait and see that the Lord is good

Although you my not see all that God is doing remember that it is not you but rather God that will do it

At this time you will experience the fullness of God and know His purposes for you although in the real world your experience
may be teling your something quite different , however at this time you will have the fullness and knowledge that "what
you are doing is what God wants" and this is where your fullness will come from

I believe this is word is from God Himself  - be blessed  :D and may it be tested as true and come to fruition and fulfillment and may time be its answer - before God -  but remember the Holy Spirit beams in as if through a telescope and pulls out parts of your life that are a glorification as unto Him as He did and does to countless peoples through time..

Wait upon the Lord and He will do this as you respond....

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2016, 02:24:38 PM »



Nite nite  :bedtime2:

A vfew more meditatiions..........

God in the OT tabernacled with His chosen people...................

Here we see tents  -notice Pauls description of our bodies being temporal tents..... he being a tent maker..

Here God indwells the tents of His people "hence the word...tabernacle...[His shekina glory] Exodus 34:35 they saw that his face was radiant

And parallel scripture [paraclete/Holy Spirit] - 2 Corinthians 3:13; We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away. . This glory [shekina does not fade] .[New Testament/covenant]

And see : divine healing Mark 8:25
Once more Jesus put his hands on the man's eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly.


God dwells within these frail tents


2 Corinthians 3:7
Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was,



Exodus 29:45  Then I will dwell among the Israelites and be their God


Holy Spirit of God...dwells among tents...

Numbers 24:2  When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came on him


the Ark of the Testimony  is the indwelling/presence of God and testimony of ...



So could God have indwelt those providing a house in the NT ?

Can God only be defined as working outside of a group ? "Church" a multitude of people as numerous as the stars and sand on the shore...

Is "Born again" only defined as outside of this ?

Cannot God dwell within a group called the Church working through people or is the Church only built by God without man ?



If this is so we have to delete Paul and the disciples as the early building and apostles and only see God as the builder without man.

If this is so we have to erase man from "God's Word" and God's indwelling.

Thus the ladder can only be built by Godnand earth does not touch heaven - but only heaven touches earth.erasing Jacob and His vision

So here we are erasing Jacob and his vision and his wrestling - as this is not really significant and the building is of God and not of Jacobs response.

Otherwise it would be Jacob building and God would not need to indwell a person such as this to do His work...
Howver if God does need to indwell to do His work we now have "The Church"

THE God of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac.. One in three persons indwelling and tabernacling in His people - fourth person/Bride


This may be called "Church" doctrine - but it is "the biblical ladder and the basis" eg: "the relationship between God and man" and not just God, as mankind /man and woman -  has to be involved.

Hence my experience of God is me and God - and the shekina and tabernacling of God within this frail tent [Church] -[Note] is being made spotless. this however does not exclude man from God - but makes him/her the Bride/Church...thus God looks at us and see;'s Jesus - the Church/Cornerstone/body/tent/.regardless of our experiences

Bumping and quoting to look at later

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2016, 02:15:00 PM »
Hi
Jest wondering about the angels ascending and descending after looking at the definition  in strongs.

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מַלְאָךְ
mal'âk
mal-awk'
From an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically of God, that is, an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, angel, king, messenger.
Total KJV occurrences: 213

It would seam that our Lord fulfils all these definitions so are these angels our Lord appearing to certain people before his incarnation and speaking through the prophets by the Spirit.

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Re: My thoughts on Jacob's ladder.
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2016, 12:53:33 AM »
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Hi there,

'And He saith unto him,
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Hereafter ye shall see heaven open,
and the angels of God
ascending and descending
upon the Son of man.'


I can't confirm yet the truth of what Edwin has said concerning the use of the shelter of the Fig Tree, or that  Nathaniel had been reading from Genesis 28 while under it, the Bible account of, John 1:45-51, is wonderful as it stands; but I shall try to find confirmation of these thing, and I thank Edwin for recording his thoughts as he has.

I believe that the Bible is God's Word, and that it is as a sword in the hands of the Holy Spirit.  I believe also that God says what He means, and means just exactly what He says.

The promise made to Nathanael in verse 51, was dependant on the  repentance of the nation of Israel, which did not take place in Nathanael's lifetime: but it will yet take place, for the promises of God are certain and sure: Nathanael will yet see this take place, but now in resurrection life, when the promises made to the Fathers will find fulfilment for the Nation of Israel, for God is faithful and will do it.

Praise His Name!

In Christ Jesus
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