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Jephthah's daughter.
« on: November 16, 2014, 03:09:52 PM »

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Jephthah's daughter.

Jdg 11:30   And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD, and said, "If You will indeed deliver the people of Ammon into my hands,
Jdg 11:31   "then it will be that whatever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the people of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up as a burnt offering."
Jdg 11:32   So Jephthah advanced toward the people of Ammon to fight against them, and the LORD delivered them into his hands.
Jdg 11:33   And he defeated them from Aroer as far as Minnith--twenty cities--and to Abel Keramim,[fn1] with a very great slaughter. Thus the people of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
Jdg 11:34   When Jephthah came to his house at Mizpah, there was his daughter, coming out to meet him with timbrels and dancing; and she was his only child. Besides her he had neither son nor daughter.
Jdg 11:35   And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he tore his clothes, and said, "Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low! You are among those who trouble me! For I have given my word to the LORD, and I cannot go back on it."
Jdg 11:36   So she said to him, "My father, if you have given your word to the LORD, do to me according to what has gone out of your mouth, because the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the people of Ammon."
Jdg 11:37   Then she said to her father, "Let this thing be done for me: let me alone for two months, that I may go and wander on the mountains and bewail my virginity, my friends and I."
Jdg 11:38   So he said, "Go." And he sent her away for two months; and she went with her friends, and bewailed her virginity on the mountains.
Jdg 11:39   And it was so at the end of two months that she returned to her father, and he carried out his vow with her which he had vowed. She knew no man. And it became a custom in Israel
Jdg 11:40   that the daughters of Israel went four days each year to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.

Here we have, "female", type of Christ.

Firstly she is a firstborn, secondly she is a virgin, (a sign of purity, and holy ness), thirdly the expression, "two months", appears, "three times", and three draws our attention to the, "Trinity", and, "two", speaks of the second person of the Trinity.  This young girl who's name is not revealed in the above passage is prepared to lay down her life in order to save her father from the consequences of breaking his vow to the LORD.   

Bless you.

Edwin.


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Re: Jephthah's daughter.
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 02:54:34 PM »
Although we have had this topic several times @ http://www.1faith.co.uk/index.php/topic,5290.0.html and  http://www.1faith.co.uk/index.php/topic,5016.0.html   .........

We might ask, should Jephthah have made a vow like this ?  eg : 29 Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah? 30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: ?If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the  Ammonites will be the LORD?s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.

Notice scripture states "IT" one wonders what the result would have been if "someone else had walked through that door ?"


METAPHOR AS WE WALK THROUGH AS A TYPE OF

Revelation 3:20; If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

God  obviously already knew who "would walk through !" and choose the narrow road ..... and - taking this analogy further "who would decide to stay in the same place" ad we might ask "do any of us choose to be wiling sacrifices ? or have we already gone past that point !...

FOOLISH -FLEECE

Some call this a "rash or foolish vow that Jephthah made and in so doing - disassociate it from being related as a "type of" - in other words if Jephthah was not "God the Father " then "Seila" the daughter was not Jesus "or a type of "

We might conclude that "God Himself makes vows! as in 1 After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, ?Abraham!? And he said, ?Here am I.? 2 He said, ?Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.

Could God break an oath ? no, not without tearing Himself in two

AND now look at

And the men who transgressed My covenant and did not keep the terms of the covenant that they made before Me, I will
make them like the calf that they cut in two and passed between its parts? I will give them into the hand of their
enemies and into the hand of those who seek their lives. Their dead bodies shall be food for the birds of the air and
the beasts of the earth.
in Jeremiah 34:18,20 see Abraham and Isaac Video and here in this video as Abraham offers up Isaac [who is willing as seila was] it is relative  here 1. the vow to Abraham - 2. the offer of Isaac - 3, The vow of Jephthah.



LAYING A FLEECE

But if I may tun this topic in another direction by introducing something that came to me while reading this post !

It reminded me of Gideon in 36Gideon said to God, ?If you will save Israel by my hand as you have promised? 37look, I will place a wool
fleece on the threshing floor. If there is dew only on the fleece and all the ground is dry, then I will know that you
 will save Israel by my hand, as you said.? 38And that is what happened. Gideon rose early the next day; he squeezed the
 fleece and wrung out the dew?a bowlful of water.

39Then Gideon said to God, ?Do not be angry with me. Let me make just one more request. Allow me one more test with the
 fleece, but this time make the fleece dry and let the ground be covered with dew.? 40That night God did so. Only the
fleece was dry; all the ground was covered with dew.


Here its a similar thing as Gideon lays a fleece to the Lord to ask for confirmation

In other words "you might say that  Jephthah's prayer was "lack of trust"

In the same way Gideon needed reassurance

How would you define the difference between the story of  Jephthah and the story of Gideon >?

Is it not wrong to test the Lord ?

We all have fears and failings regarding the future - as none of us knows the future and trusting totally is difficult



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http://www.1faith.co.uk/index.php/topic,5290.0.html
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compassionate-one

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Re: Jephthah's daughter.
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 03:31:59 PM »
God does have female atributes So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them? ? Genesis 1:27

Edwin

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Re: Jephthah's daughter.
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 04:24:41 PM »
Thank you compassionate-one for your comment, you say.

"God does have female attributes"   

Yes indeed, as can also be seen at,

Israel's two births. ? on: November 14, 2014, 03:47:47 PM ?    http://www.1faith.co.uk/index.php?topic=5692.0

Bless you.

Edwin.


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