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Two new questions.
« on: November 09, 2014, 03:43:22 PM »

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I would like If I may to ask two further questions. This time in respect of the following verses.

Philippians 2:5-9, (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
 
5 Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus,
6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage. a
7 Instead He emptied Himself by assuming the form of a slave, taking on the likeness of men. And when He had come as a man in His external form,
8 He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death?even to death on a cross.
9 For this reason God also highly exalted Him and gave Him the name that is above every name,
 
Footnote: a verse 6 Or to be grasped, or to be held on to

Firstly in verse 7, the expression, "emptied himself ", if translated literally from the Greek, would read, "emptied himself empty", this is emphatic, that is to say totally, not partially, in other words, whatever it was Jesus emptied Himself of, it was, all of, not some of . 

What in your opinion was it of which Jesus ""emptied himself empty"?

Secondly, in respect of verse 9. Just what is your understanding of "the name that is above every name"?

Thank you.

Edwin.
 
 




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Re: Two new questions.
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 01:15:26 PM »
I would like If I may to ask two further questions. This time in respect of the following verses.

Philippians 2:5-9, (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
 
5 Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus,
6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage. a
7 Instead He emptied Himself by assuming the form of a slave, taking on the likeness of men. And when He had come as a man in His external form,
8 He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death?even to death on a cross.
9 For this reason God also highly exalted Him and gave Him the name that is above every name,
 
Footnote: a verse 6 Or to be grasped, or to be held on to

Firstly in verse 7, the expression, "emptied himself ", if translated literally from the Greek, would read, "emptied himself empty", this is emphatic, that is to say totally, not partially, in other words, whatever it was Jesus emptied Himself of, it was, all of, not some of . 

What in your opinion was it of which Jesus ""emptied himself empty"?

Secondly, in respect of verse 9. Just what is your understanding of "the name that is above every name"?

Thank you.

Edwin.
 
 



The Son of Gd emptying Himself to become as a slave, a carpenter, a servant as Isaiah 53 portrays - giving up His glory to become "as mankind" fully human yet fully God -two natures -  hypostatic union, Jesus Christ became "as mankind" and humbled Himself being portrayed for silver and hung between thieves Matthew 27:38 ;

Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Hm a name that is above every name that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord [my words]

TJ

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Re: Two new questions.
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 01:23:27 PM »
Not emptying Himself of divinity - but emptying Hmself at the point of coming [down] to earth to be "The Servant King" human yet Divine to be "as mankind" and to be crucified by mankind, giving up His place in heaven  being called "son"  see : Psalm 2:7 - and again in Hebrews 5:5; being the perfect high priest and mentioned again in Acts 13:33; yet always being the "Son"

The Word was made flesh John 1:14; - Galatians 4:4 But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son - Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Jesus was not therefore "totally man" and therefore cannot  be said to be just "a prophet"

this is why God exalted Him to the highest place - that every knee shall bow

Indeed Jesus was raised as a son but raised up by God "in the day of The Son" Christs resurrection from the dead  as mentioned in Psalm 2:7

Always being the Son yet becoming in the sight of many witnesses  - So at Antioch it is spoken of " Acts 13:33; he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "'You are my son; today I have become your father.'

Thus it is written by one in the desert "Make way for the King of Kings - raise up the valleys and lower the mountains" [my words] see: Isaiah 40:4 - Luke 3:5

So too the Son lowered Himself to be raised up by the Father as a Son

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