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Sunday Journeys: Oak Hills Church in San Antonio, Randy Frazee and Max Lucado

Last summer, I had the privilege of visiting and preaching at Oak Hills Church, where Randy Frazee is the Senior Minister and Max Lucado in the Teaching Minister.


You’ll note that the church uses the term “minister” where most would use the term “pastor.” The reason is part of the heritage and practice of the church.


The church is a part of the Restoration movement which explains some of the descriptions.


For example, the early service was all led with a capella singing.



But, the other services included instruments. Here’s a pic from the back.



The church practices communion each week, a tradition in almost all churches in the Restoration movement.



The church is really just a great non-denominational church. They are one of the largest churches in America now, multicultural, and passionate about being on mission.


Randy is leading them in a neighborhood engagement plan he desribes like this:



Each person has a strength they bring to their neighborhood. These strengths are Belonging, Growing, and Serving. Some people simply enjoy belonging or are good at helping others belong. Other people simply enjoy growing or are good at helping others grow. Still others simply enjoy serving or are good at helping others serve. Together, these people make up a Neighborhood Team that is led by a Neighborhood Captain. All three of these strengths are necessary for healthy biblical community. Because everyone has a strength, it takes everyone—the priesthood of all believers—to create the healthiest teams.



But, a few of my favorite take aways were the emphasis about the church being the body. I wore a church bracelet home.


(Pardon the small scar; I fell off a cliff as a kid. True story.)



Each of the images (on the reverse) has a meaning and explains what “We are the body” means.



Frazee continues:



The first phrase is represented by the group of people. It’s our Identity. “We are the body of Christ.”


The second phrase is represented by the cross. It’s our Mission. “…called to be Jesus…”


The third phrase is represented by the house. It’s the first part of our Vision. “…in every neighborhood…”


The fourth phrase is represented by the city buildings. It’s the second part of our Vision. “…in our city…”


The fifth phrase is represented by the globe. It’s the third part of our Vision. “…and beyond.”


“We are the body of Christ called to be Jesus in every neighborhood in our city and beyond.”



But, I also was blessed by the group of women from a local rehab ministry called Grace House. I had the privilege of worshipping with them. Grace House



is a faith-based transition home for women at risk.


We provide a safe environment where our residents have the opportunity to establish an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. They are taught to change their life-styles by making healthy choices for themselves and their families.



I’m encouraged by the ministry being done through Oak Hills Church. I pray their emphasis on community and mercy ministry will be adopted by other churches.



Source: Sunday Journeys: Oak Hills Church in San Antonio, Randy Frazee and Max Lucado

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_Movement
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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2016, 03:27:41 PM »
It's good to see churches that involve their members and make them feel they are part of each other - we all have different strengths and weaknesses, but together, we can make it work!


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If God Is Just, Why All This Suffering?
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2016, 12:00:11 AM »
If God Is Just, Why All This Suffering?

A million girls and boys trafficked for sex each year.


Millions of widows facing violence and destitution at the hands of their own family and neighbors.


Tens of millions of slaves locked in crushing labor.


Hundreds of millions of girls raped.


How do we hold in tension the truth of God’s goodness and love for justice with the reality of pandemic suffering? There are countless stories of people all over our world—people created by God for a life of wholeness and flourishing but who instead undergo a living nightmare of injustice. How do we open our eyes and see the dire needs of our neighbors while holding fast to hope in a God who rescues, heals, and restores?


Derailment in the face of suffering is far too often the norm rather than the exception. Even those of us launching forth with the deepest passion for justice and conviction of God’s goodness can lose heart and fail to persevere over the long haul. Everyone is vulnerable to derailment; injustice can breed disillusionment and doubt. Suffering can drive cynicism or, even worse, despair.


But God invites us to come to him—not in spite of doubt and derailment but in the midst of it. Woven throughout Scripture is an unguarded type of prayer known as lament. To lament is to ask “Why?” and “Why not?” as well as “What are you doing God?” and “Where are you?” To lament is to pour out our hearts, holding nothing back. It is to pray without trying to be more full of faith than we actually are. Lament is prayer that honors the honesty of pain and anger while also honoring the truth that God is the one who reigns and whose hesed love never fails. Lament holds in tension all the suffering that seems to make no sense with a determination to believe that God is just. Lament draws us near to God when we are tempted to turn away. Lament enables us to keep moving forward with perseverance in the justice calling; it is a way to remain deeply connected to the God who loves us and loves justice even when injustice makes us ask the hardest questions of God.


The Heart of Lament


Lament is a gift. In the midst of everything going wrong around us—whether in the world at large or in the lives of people whose names and faces we know and hold dear—lament is a gift given to help us hold fast to God. God invites lament because he knows our temptation to turn away rather than toward him in the heat of hardship. Some of us turn away by not talking to God when we experience pain in our lives or see the suffering and evil of oppression at work in the world. Others turn away by pretending they can simply press on with their lives and shelter themselves from the pain they feel or see, seeking to avoid the tension of wrestling with a good God who reigns over a world that is festering in grief. Lament is only the beginning of our journey toward God in hope, but it is a beginning that we can hardly plumb too deeply. Even as we station ourselves to wait upon the Lord and determine to rejoice in the midst of trembling, in the face of injustice we need to return again and again to lament.


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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2016, 01:38:54 AM »
And it makes no difference whether the people are Christians or not

Not to mention those who are God's are more likely to be tested...

I suppose the Christian believer would see it all as testing and trial

Whereas the unbeliever would see it more as "life" and "a bad deck of cards"


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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2016, 01:44:54 AM »
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Lament is a gift. In the midst of everything going wrong around us?whether in the world at large or in the lives of people whose names and faces we know and hold dear?lament is a gift given to help us hold fast to God. God invites lament because he knows our temptation to turn away rather than toward him in the heat of hardship. Some of us turn away by not talking to God when we experience pain in our lives or see the suffering and evil of oppression at work in the world. Others turn away by pretending they can simply press on with their lives and shelter themselves from the pain they feel or see, seeking to avoid the tension of wrestling with a good God who reigns over a world that is festering in grief. Lament is only the beginning of our journey toward God in hope, but it is a beginning that we can hardly plumb too deeply. Even as we station ourselves to wait upon the Lord and determine to rejoice in the midst of trembling, in the face of injustice we need to return again and again to lament.

Some of us turn away by not talking to God when we experience pain in our lives or see the suffering and evil of oppression at work in the world. Others turn away by pretending they can simply press on with their lives and shelter themselves from the pain they feel or see, seeking to avoid the tension of wrestling with a good God who reigns over a world that is festering in grief.

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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2016, 02:32:11 AM »
I mean - our hearts go out to those syrians seeking refuge and help - stuck between borders.

Fleeing the war stricken and bomb shelled homes they once lived in /  being terrorised by Isis.

Certainly there are Christians here stuck in this crisis.

So what do we say to them ? "you have not got enought  faith?"  or  "God can deliver you ?"  or "God can heal you"

Certainly this might work "in our Church and in our society to our advantage "

But how do you see this working in a family fleeing a country where their home is a mount of rubble ....

Maybe the child that has lost his or her mother or father can find comfort in our UK answer and from our place of worship where I complain when the central heating stops working and when I have just voted in the general Church meeting for a "new carpet in the entrance of the Church hall"




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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2016, 02:39:23 AM »
I mean wbat a nuisance being a lorry driver and finding refugees in the back .

It messes with my work and loses me money in the process.

As David Cameron pointed out "they are just a bunch of migrants ..."

A BUNCH OF MIGRANTS - VIDEO

What a nuisance ?




https://www.youtube.com/embed/Cqjt4cSoURc

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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2016, 07:54:43 AM »
The articles says;

'God invites lament because he knows our temptation to turn away rather than toward him in the heat of hardship. Some of us turn away by not talking to God when we experience pain in our lives or see the suffering and evil of oppression at work in the world. Others turn away by pretending they can simply press on with their lives and shelter themselves from the pain they feel or see, seeking to avoid the tension of wrestling with a good God who reigns over a world that is festering in grief. Lament is only the beginning of our journey toward God in hope, but it is a beginning that we can hardly plumb too deeply. Even as we station ourselves to wait upon the Lord and determine to rejoice in the midst of trembling, in the face of injustice we need to return again and again to lament.'

However I am also aware that the above times are not the only times people are tempted to, or turn away from God. Sometimes when life is going great (is that ever possible?), people forget about God when they are busy getting on with their lives and enjoying themselves. After all the world provides plenty of distractions. I guess one could follow the latest fads, immerse themselves in all the world has to offer and forget about God?

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