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Understanding our History: How Imperfect Patriots Changed America for the Better

Some reflections on divine providence.


Historians have spilled much ink since America’s founding over one single question: Is the U.S. a Christian nation?


Many believers today find comfort in the notion that their country was founded by many men and women of great faith. Others might prefer to scratch out references to God found in the Declaration of Independence and not just one, but all fifty of the state constitutions in our country.


Whatever side of this debate one lands on, the importance of accurately understanding and interpreting our nation’s history remains all the same. We live in a complex world where people often try to bend and twist historical truth to suit their needs. And where our ability to appreciate people’s great contributions to our country’s story may be hindered by their own imperfections.


As Dr. Tracy McKenzie of the Wheaton College History department writes, human beings “will be tempted, subconsciously at least, to distort what we see in order to find what we are looking for.”


This includes what we are looking for in our nation’s own founding.


Some choose to make gods and others make villains out of the founding fathers and those that followed after them as leaders of this country.


But what if today, we remember that history isn’t quite so black and white? What if instead of looking to question our founding ideologically or praise the founders themselves, we chose to see God’s protective hand over these imperfect patriots who shaped our nation?


If we believe God is active in history, then we can believe he is active in our nation’s history.


Ben Franklin’s prayer


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[Cfamily]A Major New Study Asks: How Does Church Affect Marital Health?
« Reply #1281 on: June 01, 2019, 01:00:10 AM »
A Major New Study Asks: How Does Church Affect Marital Health?

A recent report suggests that highly religious couples have better relationships and better sex. Domestic violence, however, is the same for them as their less religious neighbors.


Charlie and Marty Coe recently celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary in front of a joyful crowd of family and friends, but things weren’t always so good in their marriage. Although they were very much in love in the early years, by the time they reached their early 30s, they had grown “cold and distant” and were “living the life of married singles.” As they put it, they were “a train wreck waiting to happen,” and though they never discussed it, the threat of divorce “loomed large.” At the time, they attended church but were not living out their faith in their marriage.


All that changed about 38 years ago when the couple attended a Worldwide Marriage Encounter (WWME) weekend they heard about through a friend at church. During the event, an unhappy Marty found the courage to tell Charlie he needed to shoulder a much larger share of the care of their two children. The WWME community also jumpstarted their faith and their marriage, prompting them to pray with and for one another on a daily basis and to become more active leaders in their church. Since then, they’ve enjoyed a vibrant marriage that they continue to share about through their marriage ministry.


This couple’s experience is illustrative of some of the key findings from a new report from the Institute for Family Studies (IFS) and the Wheatley Institution, The Ties That Bind. It finds that “lukewarm” couples—those who attend church infrequently—do not enjoy better relationship quality than secular couples who never attend church, and on some measures, such as men’s infidelity and women’s relationship quality, they actually do worse than secular couples. But couples ...

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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #1282 on: June 01, 2019, 02:33:05 PM »
There is nothing new in this, only that society does not want the inconvinence of changing its irresponcible ways.
try this article which points out that chastity before mariage Does matter.

https://winteryknight.com/2018/10/30/new-study-virgins-have-happiest-marriages-more-sex-partners-means-more-unhappiness/
Radicle results han comfirm the Christian basis for marriage.

and a few more about marriage:-

https://winteryknight.com/2014/07/31/do-husbands-and-wives-have-specific-responsibilities-in-a-christian-marriage/
Men have a leadership responcibility, ladies are you prepared

https://winteryknight.com/2018/04/04/what-do-pastors-teach-christian-women-about-relationships-and-marriage/

https://winteryknight.com/2018/12/15/william-lane-craig-offers-advice-to-christians-considering-marriage-3/
Note what is said about choising a wife who believes in you and supports you, also women, is your career and goals more important than your husbands
https://winteryknight.com/2011/11/20/the-new-york-times-on-christian-marriage-guru-gary-chapman/
surprise surprise, men communicate differently to women.


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Re: Christian family - family and home topics
« Reply #1283 on: June 01, 2019, 10:13:32 PM »
Families can come in many forms and are not always husband, wife and 2.2 children . Families can be grandparents and children, sisters together , adoptive families but still I believe in chastity. For the problems without it are enormous. It develops from bad to worse and now the UK has a sex obsessed society.  Obsessed with helping those with sex related issues. Dare I say what but you can guess. Not so obsessed with helping those that those Godly people helped through God working through them.

What a sick godless society
People can lack affection and come from dysfunctional families but in many other ways wheres the self control in all the unfaithfulness and sex obsessions. Wheres the reverance to God and respect that sex is reserved for marriage and misusing it corrupts the world into a place of aggression, hatred and extremism to the point of calling good "evil" and evil "good."
There needs to be a revival of being Shepherded by Jesus. They have wandered away.

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[Cfamily]The ‘Marks’ of Our Churches: Keeping from Mission Drift
« Reply #1284 on: June 02, 2019, 01:00:10 AM »
The ‘Marks’ of Our Churches: Keeping from Mission Drift

What are the things that undergird the church itself?


The idea of being a part of a ‘driven church’ is something we hear about a lot right now. It seems like there should be a certain purpose or set of purposes that should be motivating churches in the work that they’re doing.


Many may hear the words ‘purpose’ and ‘church’ and immediately think about Pastor Rick Warren’s book The Purpose Driven Church. In the book, Rick lists some of the purposes of church—in total, there are 12 characteristics that he argues all purpose-driven churches should share.


Some of these purposes include:



     
  1. Having a Purpose Statement to describe the church’s promise to build the church in accordance with five New Testament purposes: worship, evangelism, fellowship, discipleship, and ministry.

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  3. Programming by purpose—again, to reflect the five New Testament purposes.

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  5. Preaching by purpose to reflect the churches commitment to each area of purpose.

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  7. Budgeting by purpose, categorizing expenditures based on the purposes they’re serving.

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  9. Form small groups on purpose, insuring that each small group helps participants fulfill each of the five purposes in their daily lives.


I think you get the idea—the five New Testament purposes should flow into everything from what a church does, preaches, spends money on, etc. It’s a helpful way to talk about how purposes are lived out.


But today I think we need to ask ourselves: What are the things that undergird the church itself?


In other words, what is one level below the purposes? What are the marks?


The marks of the church


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[Cfamily]Why Foursquare’s Female Leaders Have It Harder Today
« Reply #1285 on: June 03, 2019, 01:00:16 AM »
Why Foursquare’s Female Leaders Have It Harder Today

The Pentecostal denomination was founded by a woman nearly a century ago, but it has failed to elect another female president since.


On Tuesday, the Foursquare Church elected Oregon pastor Randy Remington its next president over general superintendent Tammy Dunahoo, who would have been the first female president since the denomination’s founder, Aimee Semple McPherson.


After the race brought in double the votes of any other Foursquare election, Dunahoo’s defeat underscores the ongoing struggle for women to reach to the highest positions in evangelical institutions, even in traditions that ordain women and affirm their roles as preachers, teachers, and leaders.


Over the years, many have wondered, “Why hasn’t a denomination founded by a woman elected another?” Foursquare may have begun with a woman at the helm, but after decades of male leadership and moves toward the evangelical mainstream, it’s actually harder for a woman to make it to the top now.


Several mainline denominations such as the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, and Evangelical Lutheran Church in America have had women in top positions, as have evangelical movements such as the Salvation Army and the Northwest Yearly Meeting of Friends (evangelical Quakers). Despite more women are enrolling in seminary and training for ministry now than any other time in history, their presence in local churches remains disproportionately small; only about 5 percent of American churchgoers have a woman as a pastor.


Women pursuing ministry today still look to Aimee Semple McPherson’s example. She founded the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel in 1923 and led the burgeoning movement—which now numbers 68,500 churches around the world—until her untimely death in 1944, when she left some big, flamboyant shoes to fill.


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[Cfamily]How We Have Forgotten God
« Reply #1286 on: June 04, 2019, 01:00:10 AM »
How We Have Forgotten God

Evangelical faith is no longer characterized by its initial passion.


The longing to know and love God, to bask in his presence, is core to evangelical life and faith as I understand it. The famous Bebbington quadrilateral describes evangelicals as those who emphasize the authority of Scripture, Christ’s death on the cross, the need for conversion, and a life of service, in both word and deed. That is good as far as it goes, but it does not go deep enough, in my view. There is something that energizes our action, that initiates our first and sustains our ongoing conversion, that draws us repeatedly to the Cross, that compels us to read and obey Scripture. That something deeper is the yearning to know God. (My previous essay, “Monomaniacs for God,” outlines what that looks like in Scripture and church history.)


One can still find this passion in our movement today, to be sure. But it is no longer something that characterizes us. It is not what we’re known for.


One reason I believe desire for God, as such, is core to what it means to be evangelical is what happened at our birth, when the desire for God did indeed characterize the movement. The following historical survey is woefully inadequate to prove this and the subsequent decline of our desire. But I nonetheless believe that, in broad strokes, it is a fair summary of where we’ve been and where we are today.


‘The town seemed to be full of the presence of God’


In the beginning, the American evangelical movement sprung up when, in the 1730s and ’40s, George Whitefield and John Wesley began preaching about the need to be born again. Their preaching revived a dying portion of Jesus’ church, which reanimated a people so that they might enjoy a vital, living, and loving relationship with our Savior. ...

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« Reply #1287 on: June 04, 2019, 09:08:09 AM »
We have certainly forgotten thew Holiness of God and in contrast how sinnful we are.

It is that contrast I see when I read about the 'great men' of God. They knew that God was holy and that they were the worst of sinners.


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