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Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« on: June 26, 2014, 01:55:31 PM »
Do all religions point to God?

Don't all beliefs lead to God ? what the difference as long as they point us to God ?

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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 02:50:19 PM »
Ultimately, everything leads to God.    Does that shock you? 
Why do I say this?  Because the end result of all things is the Judgement of God.  Everybody who is not born again stands cursed and is
dead in spirit.  everybody who is not born again, will stand before God at their final judgement.
So in a sense, yes, all religions end at the feet of God's Judgement, but only one leads to forgiveness and eternal life.

It's the Christian faith alone which leads to  forgiveness of sin and only the One True God can forgive sin.  Who is this Powerful and Almighty forgiver of sin?  Jesus the Christ.  God who came in the flesh to die for the sin of all mankind.  He alone who is God will forgive your sin and send His Holy Spirit to indwell you.   

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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 03:37:20 PM »
No al beliefs do not lead to God, they all imply that there is a God, but to actualy know God one must respond to his revelation which ultimatly is only found in Jesus.

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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2014, 10:24:17 AM »
Yes , I suppose even nature and the stars point to God Psalm 19:1; and even the existence of satan points to God Job 1:8; 2 Corinthians 12:7;

But there are religions/ faiths that believe in God and Jesus !

So where do you draw a line between a belief and a cult and a main stream denomination ?

Just because someone "Sets himself up in the place of leadership 2 Thessalonians 2:4;" and others follow him/her Luke 21:8; and they seem to duplicate others....

What do you define as the "True Church"

Surely God can use anything, anyone anytime and anywhere and so God can use the shack down the road that worships in Jesus name [but has no Head]

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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 07:38:51 PM »

But there are religions/ faiths that believe in God and Jesus !

Ultimately everything that we have came from God. If any of it is not 'very good' now, something has occurred to change it since Gen 1:31?

"But who am I, and what is my people, that we should be able to offer so willingly after this sort? for all things come of thee, and of thine own have we given thee." I Chron 29:14


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So where do you draw a line between a belief and a cult and a main stream denomination ?

Drawing our own lines is big part of our trouble.

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Just because someone "Sets himself up in the place of leadership 2 Thessalonians 2:4;" and others follow him/her Luke 21:8; and they seem to duplicate others....

"The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them." Luke 17:20-23



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you define as the "True Church"

Surely God can use anything, anyone anytime and anywhere and so God can use the shack down the road that worships in Jesus name [but has no Head]

The expression "True Church" is not one I can locate in scripture, so before present your statement to others,
perhaps you should define your meaning.

As to the "shack down the road", I presume you mean the 'the people who meet in the shack down the road". If "they" worship "in Jesus name" then Jesus is their Head, so it does not follow they have no Head. The problem with too supposedly 'would be worshippers' is that they do have a natural head, be a human leader or the physical head upon their shoulders.

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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 01:56:55 AM »

Ultimately everything that we have came from God. If any of it is not 'very good' now, something has occurred to change it since Gen 1:31?

"But who am I, and what is my people, that we should be able to offer so willingly after this sort? for all things come of thee, and of thine own have we given thee." I Chron 29:14


Drawing our own lines is big part of our trouble.

"The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them." Luke 17:20-23



The expression "True Church" is not one I can locate in scripture, so before present your statement to others,
perhaps you should define your meaning.

As to the "shack down the road", I presume you mean the 'the people who meet in the shack down the road". If "they" worship "in Jesus name" then Jesus is their Head, so it does not follow they have no Head. The problem with too supposedly 'would be worshippers' is that they do have a natural head, be a human leader or the physical head upon their shoulders.


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The expression "True Church" is not one I can locate in scripture, so before present your statement to others,
perhaps you should define your meaning.

yeah I suppose all gatherings who worship Jesus  must be "The Church", and therefore Jesus must be the Head [as obviously all done must be of Jesus " !...... [Selah]

Ephesians 5:23   For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body

But then..... .... ... thats only when the husband is awake ...o look Ephesians 5:14 ?Wake up, sleeper,rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.?http://www.christianfaithandfellowshipforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5394.msg41188.html#msg41188  "awake o lararus"

Surely only servants and slaves obey their masters and who would follow a blind guide ? Luke 6:39; Matthew 15:14; under the context of "what defiles a man"  yay Scribes and Pharisees, doctors and rabbins...
learned men who's wives submit and follow

Be they not true followers but pipers Matthew 11:17;

I say "true Church" as the Church begins at home as per Ephesians 5:23; but not every head can be followed nor every government  be submitted to Romans 13:1;

Lets say the government tells you to do something that goes against your belief or lets say your "husband" who is the "head " tells you to go against what you believe to be right or correct? do they still continue to be the "head"? or is Christ the "True Head" ?

In the same way if anything opposes the True Head , I'm afriad it is no longer my "Headship"

If I continue to follow that which is truly wrong in Gods eyes then I am not a true follower

Whereas if I truly follow God and the evidence of my faith being  "incorrect" in other peoples eyes "I may be truly a follower" example Hosea 1:2;

does that clarify "the True Church " ?

For not everyone who says "Lord" will enter "but Only those who do the Fathers will Matthew 7:21; would the Fathers will go against government ? family ? Matthew 19:29;  or those subjected to husbands ?

Depends  ....is the husband a true follower ?

Clearly Jesus Himself thought otherwise as unto the scribes and pharisees and clearly not all done "in the name of Jesus" has Jesus as its Head.

As an "Alien" Ive seen many things done in the name of Jesus and we know of the "Crusades" of old

I cannot say truthfully that all "faith" has its center or that all "Christian" has no flesh


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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2014, 12:37:12 PM »
If a Christ follower  does something unpopular with others that "alienates them" I would see that more as evidence, than someone who merely runs a popularity contest

To me the depth of a person is not scored by "likes" /"friends" / "follows"/ "fame"/ or "money" indeed Hosea the seen as a minor prophet was a major prophet and one who obeyed the Father, regardless of social - political or family agreement

[where two or three are gathered in my name]

hope that clarifies my post

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Re: Faith-Q - Do all religions point to God?
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2014, 02:22:10 AM »
Saying the words "in the name of Jesus" doesn't put the speaker "in the name of Jesus". Any barroom drunk can invoke the name of "Jesus" with his physical mouth. What God means by "in the name" is, I believe, quite a bit different. When two or three are gathered together really "in his name" then Jesus really is right there in their midst and they (the ones "in his name") know it. Will others who are physically present but NOT really "in his name" recognize the presence of Jesus? Perhaps not...

 

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