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Offline davetaff

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 02:36:15 PM »
Hi
It depends on what the word alien means it dose not have to be a life form from outer space someone from another country residing in this country can be classed as an alien.
likewise anyone who is not in the  body of Christ is an alien and has the opportunity to enter the body and be saved.
So the answer to the question is definitely yes aliens can be saved.

Love and Peace
Dave

Online Tes Johnson

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 12:28:45 AM »
This kind of reminds me of  "made in His image "   where we tend to find security in having two arms and two legs..

I have never seen an animal collect tithes or do flower arranging...

Yet these  things seem  to make us happy inside... as they give us a purpose..

[Israel was alienated from God "at times" as their relationship  came and went and back again...  [they were  saved and chosen [a Holy nation belonging to God] God had ownership here - lives  were bought ...


I mean once I buy something it is owned  by me .. but ths is a parable/picture/ of why Jesus died for me.... okay so why did God leave His chosen and let the to their end in babylon ......... well - you might get the drift with [baby - l - on]

So  we have to lear the language here and the culture [as it was quiite differnet to ours  "now today"]





But I want to know why animals have the right to become sons's of God ?... did God buy animals with silver !

Or why aliens have eternal life when Jesus never died on their planet !


It's all alien to me..

Online Tes Johnson

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 01:05:46 AM »
okay so- people worship God ...

It seems [animals are in heaven] so why are they in heaven....

Why are tree's in heaven  and on the new earth|?

What did they do to earn anything?
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Ahh - why do I do - when my doing has no sense ...... in the same way you can spend your life folowing Gd but seem to end up with nothing - as with many Revelation 1:9-11 - giving one example....



So what is the testimony here.....   God brings trouble and turmoil .. God alienates you ...  God lets you be burned in boiling oil ? [wow what a testimony]

No the testimony here was that John through all his trials - saw heaven and wrote the book of revelations [that God uses today]

So why is this alien to me ?

And why is it alien to animals and creation....

mmm  ...  wow it all goes against "the way I was brought up " and my testimony...


How you save and restore animals and when the have done nothing - yet I  work .... [in this life]


Offline francis drake

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2018, 01:47:03 PM »
The only reason anyone would need to be saved was if they had fallen from their position with God, as did Adam.
However Adam was not alone in his fall from grace, but also took with him all that was under his dominion.

Gen1v28God blessed them and said to them, ?Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. And have dominion over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.?
As can be seen the above verse, God gave Adam dominion over the whole planet and all that moved in it or on it.

Thus when Adam was rejected from God's presence, he also took into that fallen state all that was under his dominion, including the planet and all future mankind.

Since that time, the planet and its contents remain fallen from its original position with God.

Romans8v19For the earnest expectation of the creation waits for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20For the creation was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope,
21Because the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.


When Christ returns and takes his proper place of dominion over man, the planet itself and its animals will also be redeemed.

Returning to the hypothetical question of aliens, should they even exist. As they were never under Adam's dominion, they could not possibly have fallen when he fell.
The question of salvation is then completely irrelevant.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)
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Online Tes Johnson

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2018, 11:28:16 PM »

thanks francis

So  alien life cannot  exist unless we have authority over it ?

They have already found the evidence of water and bacterial life on other planets and moons...


What is your take on this ...

Being that the stars and most of the original creation will be in eternity...





Offline John

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2018, 06:47:11 AM »
TJ,
         Please quote your source for evidence of life, bacterial, on other planets?

As far as I'm aware there is no evidence of life on other planets, excep life we've put there.

Online Tes Johnson

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2018, 11:36:18 PM »
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TJ,
         Please quote your source for evidence of life, bacterial, on other planets?

As far as I'm aware there is no evidence of life on other planets, excep life we've put there
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ummmmm - one example


WATER ON OTHER MOONS /PLANETS


Why would'nt water exist elsewhere ? and water means life !





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(moon)

Offline francis drake

Re: Faith-Q - Can an Alien life form be saved ?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2018, 11:49:38 PM »
thanks francis

So  alien life cannot  exist unless we have authority over it ?

They have already found the evidence of water and bacterial life on other planets and moons...


What is your take on this ...

Being that the stars and most of the original creation will be in eternity...

I never said that at all Tes.
I said that Adam had been given dominion over the planet. When he sinned and "fell from grace", he took the whole of his kingdom with him.
Adam's kingdom did not include other planets, whether you believe life exists there or not. Therefore these planets did not fall.
Therefore these planets and any supposed life therein don't need salvation because of some sin of Adam.


Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)