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Offline Jesus4me

Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2015, 07:52:11 AM »

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The question is, God not hearing prayer.  Those people who pray for something that is not God's wil or those non christians who plead with God to heal 'x'.
Are the prayers I was thinking about. Does God hear those prayers?

To "So find a promise that fits your need, then you can know that God will always answer it." is to seek to treat God as a slot machine. We donot know what God's detailled will is for us and we cannot assume that just because there is a promise in the bible that seems to meet our wants, that God will treat us to it.



Finding  scriptures that shows what God has promised and provided for  us, and believing that will give it to us, ISN'T  using  God as a slot machine, It's faith in the  God's  word, it pleases  God. . Without  faith it's  impossible to  please  God, so having  faith in His word will please God.

We do know what God's  will for us is, "It's  to bless us",  He said  if we ask ANYTHING  according to  His will, He will give it.
So we need to find the  scriptures that  covers our need, then we can believe God   for it.
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Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2015, 09:27:40 AM »
I would say if God has made a promise, why can you not apply it to your life? 

God making a promise is like a covenant, why would you not take God at His Word?

Why would you dismiss it from your own life?

Are we not worthy of God's promises wrote in the Bible?

Are they just for the people at that time?

Is the Bible a history book or something that is also living and active like a double edged sword?

God's yes is a yes, and no is a no.  What is wrong in holding God to His yes's and no's?

So no, applying God's Word in your life is not playing a game of lottery, its not taking a bet, its not playing roulette. 

I expect God's Word to be true and stand as God does unlike man's word which can sway to the left or to the right.

I equally do not restrict God's Word to the Bible alone.

Offline Jesus4me

Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2015, 09:37:03 AM »
The question is, God not hearing prayer.  Those people who pray for something that is not God's wil or those non christians who plead with God to heal 'x'.
Are the prayers I was thinking about. Does God hear those prayers?

To "So find a promise that fits your need, then you can know that God will always answer it." is to seek to treat God as a slot machine. We donot know what God's detailled will is for us and we cannot assume that just because there is a promise in the bible that seems to meet our wants, that God will treat us to it.


Please read Matt 7: 7--11. Mk 11: 24. Jn 14: 13. Jn 15: 7. Jn 16: 23--24. 2 Cor 1: 20. Eph  3: 20. 1 Jn 3: 22. 1 Jn 5: 14--15.
All these scriptures are God's promise to us, But note, Jn 15: 7. and 1 Jn 5: 14, Tells us that we need to know what God's will is, [And His will is His word].
So find scriptures that you need prayer for, then you can have confidence in receiving the blessing from God. 
For instance, if you need healing, You can use, Ps 107: 3. Isaiah 53: 3--5. Matt 8: 16--17. 1 Pet 2: 24. Mk 16: 17--18. James 5: 14--15.

1 Jn 3: 22 tells us that we need to live a life that pleases God, otherwise it could hinder the blessings.
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Offline John

Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2015, 11:15:01 AM »
You are very good at ignoring the question.
So what is your answer to it, or by your silence on the question do you agree with me?

Offline John

Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2015, 11:23:27 AM »
Rachael,
                  on the secnd question about appling Gods word and the promises to our lives.
I have no problem with people reading and praying about the promises contained there. What I do have a problem with is, a promise being dragged out of the bible and applied without thought or pray to all Christians. Not all Christians live in comfortable homes, in this country, or have well paid jobs, or have good health.
That some live a faithfull live in difficult circumstances is a testiment to their trust in God and not a rebuke for their lack of faith.

There is no one faith fits all believers, God deals with us where we are and if we're willing raises our faith.

Offline francis drake

Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2015, 01:27:02 PM »
Okay, if that was the case, then why didn't Paul drive out the thorn in his flesh?, or why didn't one of the other apostles do such?, because after all we have plenty examples of them casting demons out of others and healing people too

Why do you presume that Paul didn't drive it out? In my view that is exactly what Paul did as the following indicates.

My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.? Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ?s power may rest on me.

a) Don't fall for the idea that Grace is just a passive state of being in regard to God. Grace puts us in the same place as Christ and with the same overcoming power that Christ used.
b) How can God's power be made perfect (consummated, completed, accomplished) in Paul's weakness, if that power wasn't applied to the job in hand?
c) Jesus said, "If I cast demons out by the spirit of God, then has the Kingdom of God come upon you." Therefore Paul also cast demons out by the spirit of God, as indeed should we!

How can Paul rejoice in the reality of Christ's power, unless he casts demons out like Christ did?
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)
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Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2015, 01:52:31 PM »
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There is no one faith fits all believers, God deals with us where we are and if we're willing raises our faith.

Yes there is one faith that fits all believers, and your told about it in ephesians...one lord, one baptism etc etc...

There are promises within the Bible which would be ludicrous to disengage with. 

I am not a rich person, far from it, but then my 'faith' isn't reliant on how many pennies I have in the bank. 

Where do you store your riches? what are your riches?

More to life than money, money just detracts people from their true self.

Offline John

Re: unheard prayer!
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2015, 03:05:45 PM »
Thank you Rachael, in trying to be concise I was guilty of sloppy thinking.

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