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Offline John

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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2020, 11:08:59 AM »
Yes Dave, untill Jesus came his message could not be preached, but the O T saints have been saved through there trust in God and those through out world history who have trusted in God according to there knowledge will be saved.

We have to trust in the mercy and justice of God.

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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2020, 12:31:04 PM »
Hi John
Thank you for your post as you say all the OT saints those who have been chosen for a specific purpose will be saved they believed in the God who had chosen them.
But the rest of Israel would be saved through obedience to the law which they failed to do our Lord told the best way to obey the law.

     Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.   This is the first and great commandment.   And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.   On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Matthew 22:37-‬40 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.22.37-40.KJV         


Love is compliance to the law

Love and Peace
Dave


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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2020, 11:57:06 PM »
Sin may not be recognized by God because He decides not to remember it..

He looks at us and decides to see Jesus..


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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2020, 09:46:46 AM »
'Likewise reckon ye also yourselves
to be dead indeed unto sin,
but alive unto God
through Jesus Christ our Lord.'

(Rom 6:11) 

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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2020, 10:09:38 AM »
Amen
🔥💖GOD CAN USE ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, ANYONE, ANYHOW, FOR HIS GOOD AND PURPOSE 💖🔥

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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2020, 10:45:55 AM »
'And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day;
and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.
And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about,
that Job sent and sanctified them,
and rose up early in the morning,
and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all:
for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned,
and cursed God in their hearts.
Thus did Job continually.'

(Job 1:4-5)   

Hello there, [@Alien-R, @John, @Amadeus, @Efengylwr71, @Serenity, @Christianna, @TJ, @davetaff]

My mind was drawn to Job recently, and reading these opening verses of the first chapter, my attention was drawn to this fact concerning Job.  That he had faithfully set apart his children unto God daily, before God, sanctifying them by the offering of burnt offerings for each one, in case they had sinned inadvertently during the previous evening or the night following.  How diligent he was in regard to his responsibility towards his children, how careful for their eternal welfare before God their Maker. 

* Job believed God: and God had every confidence in his faithfulness (Job 1:8).  Job also believed in the resurrection of the dead, for he could say with assurance:-

'For I know that My Redeemer liveth
and that He shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another;
though my reins be consumed within me.'

(Job 19:25-27) 

Praise God!

* Though grief stricken at the death of his children, he had the comfort of knowing that he had done all in his power to present them as though holy and without blame before God, by means of the shedding of blood, without which there could be no forgiveness of sins; and that he would one day see them again in resurrection life. How wonderful that we too, who believe and trust in God, have that same hope of resurrection life, in Christ Jesus our Lord.  Who shed His blood on our behalf, that we may be presented holy and without blame before the Father.

* David, in Psalm 19:12-14, prays to God, and says,

'Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me:
then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in Thy sight,
O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.'


* He knew that Sin, even when not recognised, is still sin: and so he acknowledged his 'secret faults' and those 'presumptuous sins', that he may have committed unknowingly.  May the words of our mouths, and the meditation of our hearts, be acceptable in God's sight too, as we walk before Him in Christ Jesus, for His Name and Glory's sake.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris 

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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2020, 11:06:46 AM »
'Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven,
whose sin is covered.
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no guile.'

(Psalm 32:1-2)

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Re: Is Sin a sin when not recogised ?
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2020, 01:40:34 PM »
Hi Chris
Thank you for your excellent post I enjoyed reading them l would like to make a comment on this verse from Job.

     'For I know that My Redeemer liveth
and that He shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another;
though my reins be consumed within me.'
(Job 19:25-27     


I thought about this the other day should we say I believe or should we say as Job say here I know.
When we say I believe it has the sense that there is an alternative but when we say I know there is no alternative its a statement of fact.
So shall we say I believe or I know??????

Love and Peace
Dave

 

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