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How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« on: December 04, 2013, 01:36:44 AM »

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After all its my choice

If He knows what I will do then its not free will ....is it ?

Its only moving within the confines of His will
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Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 05:47:28 PM »
Predestination, working in God's will is different to foreknowledge or all knowing.  Just because you know or have knowledge of something going to happen, doesn't necessarily mean you had a hand in what is going to happen.

Offline clark thompson

Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 12:52:48 AM »
I have to believe those who come to faith, have God leading them.
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Offline John

Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 06:03:17 PM »
The fact that God knows what we will do does not imply we have no freedom. eg. if I leave a sweet in sight of a child, I know that that child will take the sweet. My knowing what the child will do does not compell the child to take the sweet.
In the same way, God knowing my action in the futre does not comel me to do those actions.

Offline francis drake

Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 10:17:10 PM »
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After all its my choice

If He knows what I will do then its not free will ....is it ?

Its only moving within the confines of His will

I have to admit to being quite shocked at the naivety of this question.
When I was a brand new Christian in the 70s, I understood that God foreknowing always what I would choose to do, did not remove my freewill to choose.
I cannot see what is so complicated. Foreknowledge is not fore control.
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Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 01:22:57 AM »
The fact that God knows what we will do does not imply we have no freedom. eg. if I leave a sweet in sight of a child, I know that that child will take the sweet. My knowing what the child will do does not compell the child to take the sweet.
In the same way, God knowing my action in the futre does not comel me to do those actions.

I have to admit to being quite shocked at the naivety of this question.
When I was a brand new Christian in the 70s, I understood that God foreknowing always what I would choose to do, did not remove my freewill to choose.
I cannot see what is so complicated. Foreknowledge is not fore control.

Hi francis  :D welcome back



So lets take Judas Iscariot

Did Judas have a choice ...if Judas had a choice, then would Jesus have been betrayed ?

that also sounds a naive question , but one that is often asked by people in the face of Gods sovereign will

For Jesus had to go to the Cross and Judas was to be the betrayer

Offline clark thompson

Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 01:23:12 AM »
Knowledge has nothing to do with freewill. He knows what we are going to do before we do it and because of freewill he simple lets us do it.
One day I will be home

Offline francis drake

Re: How Does God Know What I Will Freely Do
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 03:00:03 PM »
Hi francis  :D welcome back



So lets take Judas Iscariot

Did Judas have a choice ...if Judas had a choice, then would Jesus have been betrayed ?

that also sounds a naive question , but one that is often asked by people in the face of Gods sovereign will

For Jesus had to go to the Cross and Judas was to be the betrayer
Hi Alien, thanks for the welcome back, just been a bit busy of late!

Of course Judas had a choice, just like Adam did when he ate of the wrong tree. Because of God's foreknowledge of Judas's freewill, God knew that Judas would betray Jesus.
Nobody can be counted guilty of any decision he makes, unless he has personally made that decision! If he has no choice in that decision, then he is free of guilt. If God forced Judas against his will, then God is the one to blame.
God dwells outside of time and thus knows the end from the beginning. He can see what I, in my own personal earthly time scale, will do on the day that I will die. He knows my very thoughts which are yet to happen. Nevertheless, He does not make those thoughts for me, nor the subsequent actions that spring from those thoughts.

When my children were small, even without God's omniscience, I would know which direction 3/4 of their choices would go in. In no way was that because I controlled those decisions.

If your perception of God doesn't include his ability to know what we will all do and think throughout every day of our lives, then perhaps you have a very limited vision of God. If you don't believe that God can allow us all personal freewill, and at the same time still ensure that the created realm arrives at His own objectives, then perhaps you have an even smaller perspective of how mighty God truly is.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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