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Re: Translation and Interpretation
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 07:12:13 PM »

Just to add to this discussion, in any good bible there are footnotes which give alternative meanings to words, there are not many of them and even fewer where the meaning impacts Christian doctrine.

re religion,  isn't that what you're discribing Efengylwr71?  'a set of practises performed without any feeling for god' and the rejection of 'religion' is as old as the O T it's self. Abrah left Ur, because of a relationship with God, the prophets all cried out against the ritualistic practise of religion, even the protestent reformers protested against the practice of empty ritual in the CoE.

Where does it say that it's about relationship? have you never read the promises in the O T that God would give his pepole a new heart, one not 'of stone but of flesh'.  Isn't that talking about a different relationship between God and his people.
Why does Jesus talk about those who have been given to him, bout those who love him that he will live in them, isn't the promise that where 2 or 3 are gathered there he will be all about relationship.

Israel had God's laws to make tem different from the surrounding nations, that they might show jst how good God is. We no longer need those as we can talk about a greater demonstration of hoe good God is and demonstrate it in the way we live.

Thanks for that John.
All I`m saying John is that there is nothing wrong with religion, and that the demonization of religion and those of a religious mind set is wrong. Like I pointed out, Jesus did not criticize the pharisees for practicing religion, but for practicing religion without the love of God in them, which constituted as hypocrisy. Of course we are to have relationship/fellowship with God but that in no way excludes religion, and in no way shape or form does God condemn religion. The prophets of old were only doing what Jesus himself was doing, criticizing the people of Israel for holding to the outward form of worship without internalizing it, and that`s all. Of course there is "False religion" like Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and the like. But a religion based on Christ`s teachings is not false. Of course you have "Christian religion" that teaches false doctrine, but it is the doctrine that is wrong, rather than the actual religious practice. God does not condemn religion, and in fact gave men religion. Some people are religiously minded, and enjoy a certain amount of ritual and ceremony, and there is no harm in that. Like I said, less religious people can be as equally hypocritical with the waving of hands in the air and shouting hallelujah and so forth, and not have the love of God in them. In fact, Jesus himself gave us ritual when he instituted the the Lord`s supper. Slice it how you want, but that IS religion and ritual. Of course at the same time, religiosity can be overdone, like the Vatican and so forth. Not wanting to criticize or judge anyone of the Catholic faith (As I was myself) the Vatican is an example of the glory of men, and not God. I`m sure God doesn`t require such grandiose architecture and art, but it`s the will of man in that instance, and not the will of God. But I still maintain that there is nothing wrong with religion, only the practice of it without God in mind and heart. God bless.


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Re: Translation and Interpretation
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2015, 01:13:27 PM »
Afterall as its "a living word" then one day God might speak to me through His word about one thing

the next day I might read the same verse and God shows me something quite different

hence to me that word has changed even though "Gods word never changes"

Was just thinking the same thing whilst sat in church last night.

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Re: Translation and Interpretation
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2020, 10:03:40 AM »
Bumping as translations come up couple times on forum of late  knit:

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2020, 11:12:07 AM »
Hi Serenity,

I have read through the thread, and enjoyed reading the comments.

I read the Bible translation that I am most familiar with, and sometimes check it against the Hebrew and Greek interlinear.  Christ is the subject of the Scriptures from beginning to end. Knowing God in Christ Jesus is the object.  The Holy Spirit uses it to fulfill God's purpose both in and through us.  The glory of God being it's desired outcome.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.

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Re: Translation and Interpretation
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2020, 06:33:35 PM »
For myself I believe the main bible translations that we have is as the creator of the universe wants them to be God loves us he wants us to know who he is what he has done what he is doing and what he will do in the future.
I don't  believe the God who loves us would want us to become linguists just to be able to understand him when our lord came into the world he did most of his preaching to the poor and uneducated and they understood what he had to say.
I don't  think disecting every jot and tittle to support what we say is advantageous

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