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Curiosus

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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2013, 07:42:28 PM »

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These Catholic Lies that    Teach that  the RESURECTION was not Taught in the Old Testament
  and that The Son of God was not the Son of God without the eXistance of Their FAKE pagan.  .. Mary.

Mary is neither fake nor a pagan. 
Still im not into maryology, however, I would hold her to a level of esteem, that in the culture she was, she bore Jesus in the first place. 
She could have been stoned to death. 
True step in faith and obedience. 
Let alone the fact she bore the Son of God for man. 

She deserves a little bit more respect than it seems you are willing to give.

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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2013, 07:49:54 PM »
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What You Disagree with.  IS the TRUTH.

No what I am disagreeing with, is the usage of the Truth to pedal such hate mongering. 
You are judging an entire Christian Congregation, of the Roman Catholic Church of only ever speaking lies, of not being true heart believers. 
You are assuming God's role in an individual's salvation. 
You do not know a person's heart, only God does.  The Bible teaches you, that only God searches a person's heart, and not to prejudge in that regard.
Fundamentalism is in existance in more than the Islam religion it would seem.



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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2013, 08:06:55 PM »
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The TRUTH  is  Hate...  by Definition ...  Hate  is  Truth...

By which, what or who's definition?

The Oxford dictionary has Truth defined as:


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truth
Pronunciation: /truːθ/
Translate truth | into French | into German | into Italian | into Spanish
Definition of truth
noun (plural truths /truː?z, truːθs/)
[mass noun]

    the quality or state of being true:he had to accept the truth of her accusation
    (also the truth) that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality:tell me the truth she found out the truth about him
    [count noun] a fact or belief that is accepted as true:the emergence of scientific truths the fundamental truths about mankind

Phrases

in truth
    really; in fact:in truth, she was more than a little unhappy
to tell (you) the truth
(or truth to tell or if truth be told)
    to be frank (used especially when making an admission):I think, if truth be told, we were all a little afraid of him to tell you the truth, I?ve never met the guys
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth
    used to emphasize the absolute veracity of a statement.
    [part of a statement sworn by witnesses in court]

Origin:

Old English trīewth, trēowth 'faithfulness, constancy' (see true, -th2)

mysteryalizereX

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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2013, 09:17:49 PM »
Why -  /---   is  it that You Completely Ignore,   DENY  and  Pervert  My Message..

For eXample  IF I TELL  YOu that.

The Roman Catholic Church / Vatican ... Demands that Mary is a Muslim too...   The Roman Catholic  ( VATICAN ) Demands that-  She ( Mary) -  is Giving Wisdom, Prophecy and Visions to Muslims..

And bringing Muslims  TOGETHER with CHRISTIANS... by  Condoning their Islam.. Mary IS  Working  in Spiritual  Works  in Islam.

Also....    Another eXample ...  The Roman Catholic Church / Vatican ... Demands that The Quran is a Book about the God of the Bible. 

the  VATICAN / POPE...  Kisses  this Book   .......DECLARING that _  ALLAH. is the God of the Old Testament...

a GOD Who denies jESUS,  Demands War against jEWS and Christians   and Condones seX with a Little Child ?



Why or How are You Coming to the  FALSE Conclusion that . **  I **  Me..     reX.  is  speaking of the ENTIRE Catholic  world.... /... Every single Child, Woman and Catholic Man...   And  Casting Hate upon them  ?
Please wait ....Don't You see.. I am not  addressing them,,,?  ?.... /...

 I am wanting to Stick to the FACTS.  Discuss and Possibly LEARN   OR  EVEN  BE  Corrected. 

I Beg of You   STAY on Topic and Correct my Errors of Fact...     Help me to understand Your Faith   ?
 >.I  feel that You are only Seeking to Distract The entire Subject...... I honestly think  it is because YOU.. have no Scriptures For Your Faith,

The Catholic Church...  is possibly the SOLE  Foundation for Your  Teachings... and the Father of  most of your --  IDEAS.
I have met and Loved and still have Many, Many CATHOLIC and Muslim Friends....I love them all....BUT.    I am  DISCUSSING  the TEACHINGS and  the history and the Bible.

While You Try to Drag the entire Catholislamic  World  into the Forum...  To  DEFEND Your  Faith...   ?

Do You  have  Scriptures for Your Faith.........please eXplain...   why do  You  do this.. 

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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2013, 12:39:57 AM »
Yes its amazing is'nt it ? hopw the Holy Spirit can speak to and through a person to God !

Here He speaks through Jesus to God...yet this is the Godhead !

Whereas the Holy Spirit now speaks through us , as in

Romans 8:26

Likewise the Spirit also helps our weakness: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought but
 the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.


Yet the Holy Spirit is God

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the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered

So the Holy Spirit speaks on our behalf mm


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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2013, 08:15:27 PM »
Paw,
           you posted that truth is hatred by definition.  Can you explane how that can be.

If I'm asked the wat to London, I would try to give accurate directions to get to London, my telling the truth to the lost driver is not an act of hatred.


                                                                     John

Edwin

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Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2013, 05:22:15 PM »
Curiosus.

Thank you for your Reply #32

Tell me, do you think that Mary was sinless, and perfect ?

And if so, what verses of Scripture would you quote to support this.

Thank you.

Every blessing.

Edwin.

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Was Jesus always God ?
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2017, 03:54:02 AM »
Jesus is the Son of God

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