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Re: The Ten commandments were just for the Jewish Nation ?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 03:34:11 PM »

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Thank you Alien-R for your comments. Perhaps the following will help, I do hope so.

Jesus had the same problem as He describes at,

Jhn 5:30 "I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me. 

And, explained how He did it, and how it is to be done by you, and I at, 

Jhn 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 

More in my next post entitled, "How to live the Christian life".

Edwin


well the John verses are in the context odf "I and the Father are One"

So the commandments in effect are to "Follow God "  and in doing this I fulfill the commandments

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Re: The Ten commandments were just for the Jewish Nation ?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 09:04:45 PM »
A universal problem with Christians is. How can I live the normal Christian life, as God wants me to ?
 
The answer is to find out how Jesus as a "man" some 2000 years ago, lived a life that was well pleasing to His Father.

It was not Jesus who performed the miracles, and preached the truth, but God the Father who dwelt inside Him (John Ch 14 v 10).

Jesus did it this way, because it is the only way in which you and I can do it. Remember "Christ in you the hope of glory".

When Jesus came to earth some 2000 years ago, He not only came to offer Himself as a sinless sacrifice to pay for our sins, and thus enable God to forgive as many as will accept this fact. But also to demonstrate by His life just how we humans were, and are intended by our Father God to behave towards the one who made us in His own image, and after His likeness, the Lord our God.
 
By His life, I mean the attitude of, "Not My will, but thine be done", that Jesus continually adopted towards His Father, thus enabling the Father who indwelt the Son, to be both seen, and heard.
 
The Father communicated Himself through the body of the man Jesus to all people with whom He came into contact at that time, and through Scripture now to us.
 
This is the reason why you, if you are a Christian are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, in order that you might allow the other resident within yourself to have right of way in your life, and to do just what He wants to do in and through you.
 
Apply that same method of, "Not My will, but thine be done", to yourself, and you will find out how to overcome the problem you have.. Now read Phil Ch 2 verses 5-13. Also in John's Gospel, Ch 1 v 18. Ch 5 verses 19, &  30. Ch 11 verses 41b & 42. Acts Ch 2 v 22, and best of all, John Ch 14 verses 9 & 10, Then ask yourself why is it that Jesus who is both God and man is doing things this way, and you will be told "Because it is the only way that you can do it".
 
Jesus also said,
 
Jhn 15:3 "You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
Jhn 15:4 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
Jhn 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
 
Note "without Me you can do nothing"
 
Why do you suppose that Paul said
 
Gal 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
 
Phl 1:21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain
 
Col 1:27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which* is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
 
Gal 4:19 My little children, for whom I labor in birth again until Christ is formed in you,
 
There is only one person in this whole universe who can live the Christian life to perfection,,, that person lives inside you, and that's why Jesus said what He said at,

Jhn 14:10 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
 
Note: "the Father who dwells in Me does the works".
 
Ask Him in prayer, why He did things this way, and He will tell you as He told me many years ago, "Because it's the only way you can do it".
 
Every blessing.

Edwin.

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Note: "the Father who dwells in Me does the works".

 

thanks Edwin



So in essence its the Father through me and the commands of God are fulfilled with Him in me !

I think I understand it

In effect that would be " Gods Riches At Christs Expense"

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Re: The Ten commandments were just for the Jewish Nation ?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 09:23:39 PM »
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The Ten Commandments being  the ideological basis for the 613 commandments

Why was the 10 commandments etched onto stone, yet the 613 weren't?

Are there different 'levels' of commandments? or are each equal in that they are just that, a command, and if so, why were a few on stone and many not?

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Re: The Ten commandments were just for the Jewish Nation ?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 10:34:14 PM »
Why was the 10 commandments etched onto stone, yet the 613 weren't?
Are there different 'levels' of commandments? or are each equal in that they are just that, a command, and if so, why were a few on stone and many not?
Because the ten commandments are the heart of the law, whereas the others were just rules and guidelines for the Jewish people, which in time, became subject to change through the new covenant in Christ`s blood. But the ten commandments are not subject to change, because they are directly from the fathers heart and from his holy spirit. And that`s why Jesus said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,(Meaning until the end of time) not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven". Mt 5:17 He was talking primarily of the ten commandments, was he not? And this is why we are "Still" accountable for breaking them, although the price has been paid, providing we repent.

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